In our 137th episode we're talking spine #156 in the Criterion Collection: Peter Davis' HEARTS AND MINDS from 1974. First RJ talks about THE HOUSE and LEAVING NEVERLAND, then Jarrett talks about documentaries GTFO, EARTHLINGS, and movies CONAN THE BARBARIAN and THE CHILDREN.

Podcast's intro song 'Here Come the Creeps' by Ugly Cry Club. You can check out her blossoming body of work here: uglycryclub.bandcamp.com/releases

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