Ridwan Kamil has become one of the most prominent politicians in Indonesia these past few years. Latest poll from Indikator Politik Indonesia put him on the top of the list among governors and leaders who did great dealing with the Covid-19 pandemic. This achievement put Ridwan Kamil as the front runner for the next president election in 2024.  In this interview, Ridwan Kamil shared his view on current political situation with Stepahnie.