Alice Di Concetto is the Founder and Consultant at Animal Law Europe, a consulting firm dedicated to helping organizations make longer strides regarding European law and policy and animal welfare. Alice is a French and US-educated lawyer with over ten years of academic and professional experience in animal law. Alice’s experience working with various government and non-government organizations has allowed her to gain considerable wisdom in EU public affairs.

Alice joins me to discuss animal law, what it’s about, and the different ways countries apply their version of animal law. She shares the growing awareness of the link between agriculture and greenhouse gas emissions and explains why a country’s animal welfare laws are not good markers for how animals are actually treated. Alice also shares various resources for those who want to learn about animal law in greater detail.

"The study of animal law goes beyond studying animal welfare and legislation." - Alice Di Concetto

This week on Ctrl-Alt-Meat:

• Why animal laws have recently been a hot topic
• What exactly is "Animal Law"and what it's really about
• The differences in animal laws across different countries
• Comparing animal welfare in Guatemala versus France

Resources Mentioned:

• Coller Animal Law Forum
• ANIMAL LAW Monthly Podcast with Mariann Sullivan
• Paw & Order Podcast
• Harvard Law School Animal Law & Policy Program
• Lewis & Clark Law School Center for Animal Law Studies
• New York University Center for Environmental and Animal Protection
• Tel Aviv University Environmental Justice and the Protection of Animal Rights

Connect with Alice Di Concetto:

• Animal Law Europe
• Alice Di Concetto on LinkedIn

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Helena Wright is the Policy Director at FAIRR, a global network of investors that promotes responsible investing with ESG risks in mind. As Policy Director, Helena focuses on policy solutions related to opportunities and threats surrounding intensive animal agriculture. She regularly engages with people from the government, regulators, major industry bodies, and their respective investors. Before joining FAIRR, Helena was the Vice President for the World Wildlife Foundation in Singapore.

Helena joins me to discuss the things that will likely come up during COP26 and the UN Biodiversity Summit. We discuss why the commitment to keep rising global temperatures at a steady 1.5 Celsius is critical for many life forms in the ocean as well as the rest of the ecosystem. Helena also shares her thoughts on climate change funding and describes why governments will likely realign their climate finance goals.

"Climate stability and biodiversity are important for preservation of the ecosystem that we rely on for life." - Helena Wright

This week on Ctrl-Alt-Meat:

• The environmental significance of stabilizing rising temperatures
• Countries that are committed to reducing agriculture emissions
• The importance of reconsidering biodiversity
• Is Helena optimistic about reaching climate change goals?
• Why governments will agree on a new climate finance goal

Resources Mentioned:

• UN Biodiversity Summit 2022
• COP26 Summit

Connect with Helena Wright:

• FAIRR
• Helena Wright on LinkedIn

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Philippa Thornton is an ESG Analyst at FAIRR Initiative, a network of investors worldwide with a mission to implement strict ESG investing practices across the global supply chain. Philippa is responsible for creating ESG Analysis within FAIRR’s Sustainable Proteins team. She obtained her Bachelor’s degree in Geography from Hertford College, Oxford, and has extensive experience working with environmental NGOs.

Philippa joins me to explain the dangers of antimicrobial resistance and why it is called a silent pandemic. She describes statistics regarding antimicrobial resistance and how it contributes to higher deaths per year. She discusses the link between agriculture and antimicrobial resistance and how humans can acquire this condition. Philippa also shares ways we can all help reduce the spread of antimicrobial resistance and the innovations and policies she is hopeful for in the coming years.

"Antimicrobial resistance can actually spread to humans directly through eating animal products and through the environment." - Philippa Thornton

This week on CTRL-ALT-Meat:

• What antimicrobial resistance really means and the key points we need to know
• How antimicrobial resistance is currently contributing to more deaths in recent years
• The connection between antimicrobial resistance and animal agriculture
• What we can expect in the future if antimicrobial resistance becomes more prominent
• Moving forward to reduce the likelihood of widespread antimicrobial resistance
• Countries prone to high levels of antimicrobial resistance
• What Philipa feels hopeful about and examples of silver linings

Resources Mentioned:

• Superbugs Unplugged podcast

Connect with Philipa Thornton:

• FAIRR
• FAIRR on LinkedIn
• Philippa Thornton on LinkedIn

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Lily Stuart is the Research & Engagement Manager of FAIRR Initiative’s Aquaculture and Biodiversity Department. FAIRR Initiative is one of the world’s leading organizations that aims to address ESG issues in the food industry, with a particular focus on animal welfare and plant alternatives. As part of FAIRR’s core team, Lily is responsible for the organization's research and engagement in all things regarding biodiversity and aquaculture.

Lily joins me today to discuss what’s really happening to our waters and the emerging trends in alternative fish products. She explains what aquaculture is and why it’s currently in hot water over ESG compliance. She describes the various hurdles that are preventing the fish industry from making fast progress in fish welfare and the social risks associated with the salmon aquaculture industry. Lily also shares what she’s excited about in the realm of lab-grown fish products.

"The terrestrial animals we farm feel stress and pain, and people are becoming a lot more conscious about it with regards to fish." - Lily Stuart

This week on CTRL-ALT-Meat:

• What's going on in aquaculture and the state of our seas
• What aquaculture means and why it's facing intense ESG scrutiny
• The two biggest aquacultures in the West
• The increasing awareness with issues of fish welfare
• Major challenges preventing progress in fish welfare in the food industry
• Social risks in the salmon aquaculture industry
• The growth of alternative seafood and the exciting developments she is seeing
• How cell-cultured fish products are more efficient than growing live fish

Connect with Lily Stuart:

• FAIRR
• FAIRR on LinkedIn
• Lily Stuart on LinkedIn

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Diana Reiss is a cognitive psychologist whose research focuses on the communication and cognition of marine animals. The core of her specialization revolves around dolphins and the evolution of their intelligence and sense of self. She is the author of The Dolphin in the Mirror where she talks about how dolphins possess the rare ability to recognize themselves in front of a mirror - once thought to be exclusive to apes and humans. She is a strong advocate for preserving aquatic life, spearheading environment preservation programs and protesting against industrial practices that destroy oceanic habitats. Diana is also a core member of Interspecies Internet, a global think-tank that seeks to accelerate interfaces that facilitate interspecies communication.

Diana joins me today to discuss her passion for dolphin research, where it all began, and when her advocacies for animals started. She discusses how her research on dolphin intelligence changed what we know about them and explains the similarities between dolphins and humans regarding self-awareness and learning techniques. Diana also shares her experience with filming The Cove, a documentary about Japan’s dolphin hunting practices and explains the goal of Interspecies Internet.

“By decoding, we could converse with animals. By decoding, we can understand what they are saying.” - Diana Reiss

This week on CTRL-ALT-Meat:

• Why Diana made the switch from arts to studying dolphin cognition
• Diana's history of rescuing animals in her youth
• How Diana's studies have changed the way the scientific community viewed dolphins
• What Diana discovered about the first stages of dolphin interactions between mothers and calves
• The different ways dolphins communicate with each other
• How Diana gives dolphins a means to communicate with them
• Why dolphins are like humans when it comes to vocal learning
• Diana's findings regarding dolphins' sense of self and social awareness
• Diana's opinions on dolphin hunting and her advocacies
• What really goes on during a dolphin hunting expedition
• Using stories over facts to convince people to care for dolphins
• What they learned when they taught dolphins how to use touchscreens
• Rescuing a whale in 1985
• Why we have to rethink our industrial fishing practices
• What Diana would encourage people to do to improve environmental conservation practices

Resources Mentioned:

• Peter Gabriel
• Alex the Parrot
• The Rescue of Humphrey, The Humpback Whale

Connect with Diana Reiss:

• Interspecies Internet
• Book: The Dolphin in the Mirror: Exploring Dolphin Minds and Saving Dolphin Lives
• The Cove

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Jim Mellon is the Chairman of Juvenescence, a biotech company disrupting the health industry through the latest advancements in supplements. He is the author of Moo's Law: An Investor’s Guide to the New Agrarian Revolution, where he talks about how cultivated meat technology can radically change the way the food system works. Jim supports startups that aim to innovate the food industry to promote a society that no longer relies on real meat.

Jim Mellon joins me today to discuss why he is optimistic about the future of food systems. He shares how the exponential growth of science and the next decade will have more scientific innovations than in the last 100 years. He explains the secret meaning behind his book’s title and what he wants readers to take away from it. He describes the disaster that awaits us if we don’t put a stop to antimicrobial resistance. Jim also discusses the hurdles that the cultivated meat industry will face and the countries that will likely adapt to lab-grown meat first.

"Science is moving much faster than it used to - and just in time, actually. We need it to move faster." - Jim Mellon

This week on CTRL-ALT-Meat:

• Why Jim is optimistic about how the food system will evolve in the future
• The frailty of the food supply chain
• How science is progressing faster than it did hundreds of years ago
• The secret meaning behind the title of his book
• What Jim suggests to those who criticize lab-made meat products
• The growing problems in using antibiotics in animal feeds and the worst-case scenario
• Why cell-ag meat is healthier and more sustainable than real meat
• The different meat products you see today compared to a decade ago
• The growth of the infant nutrition market and noticeable innovations
• Will the alternative meat industry experience a startup bubble
• The biggest hurdles Cell-Ag is facing and will face in the future
• Countries that will adapt to lab-made foods first
• What readers will find helpful in his book

Resources Mentioned:

• Meatable
• VitroLabs Inc
• Peter Singer
• Seaspiracy
• Eating Animals by Jonathan Safran Foer

Connect with Jim Mellon:

• Juvenescence
• Book: Moo’s Law: An Investor’s Guide to the New Agrarian Revolution

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Elliot Teperman is an Outreach & Research Analyst for the Farm Animal Investment Risk & Return Initiative (FAIRR Initiative). The FAIRR Initiative is an investor network that aims to generate awareness of ESG risks and opportunities that were realized due to intensive livestock production. As an analyst for FAIRR, Elliot is responsible for onboarding investors, understanding their needs, and conducting FAIRR’s yearly surveys.

Elliot Teperman joins me today to discuss the progress towards animal welfare in the food industry over the last ten years. He shares the move from caged-hens to cage-free farming and how it impacted various producers. He describes the impending risk of antimicrobial resistance in the future and how we can avoid it. Elliot also explains what he thinks will be the next big change in the food industry for animal welfare.

"If you're not giving animals as many antibiotics, by necessity they are going to have better lives." - Elliot Teperman

This week on CTRL-ALT-Meat:

• The trends and improvements Elliot has observed over the past decade
• The issue with caged hens and the rise of cage-free farming
• Elliot's thoughts on antibiotic overuse and the risk of antimicrobial resistance
• Compatibility issues between business profits and animal welfare causes
• Who stands to benefit from the animal welfare causes and changes
• The next big thing for animal welfare

Resources Mentioned:

• Open Philanthropy
• Lewis Bollard Twitter
• Lewis Bollard’s Blog
• Sentience Institute

Connect with Elliot Teperman:

• FAIRR

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Sophia De La Parra is an ESG Analyst for the FAIRR Initiative, an organization that promotes responsible investing for their pensioners through strict adherence to ESG guidelines. She vets retailers and brand manufacturers and works closely with FAIRR’s Investor Members to develop and integrate sustainable food systems. Sofia earned her MSc in Climate Change, Management, and Finance from Imperial College London.

Sofia joins me today to explain what plant-based food producers should do to attract more consumers. She describes how a plant-based diet can help the environment in the long term and the challenges that are often associated with plant-based meat alternatives. Sofia also shares some of the reasons why a plant-based diet is good for our health and where listeners can learn more about the latest in plant-based news and innovations.

"It's not enough for plant-based foods to be environmentally sustainable. They also need to be nutritionally sufficient." - Sophia De La Parra

This week on CTRL-ALT-Meat:

• The benefits of having a plant-based diet for your health and the environment
• The challenges associated with plant-based alternatives
• What plant-based products need to be for meat consumers to shift to plant alternatives
• How to learn more about trends and innovations in plant-based diets

Connect with Sophia De La Parra:

• FAIRR
• FAIRR on LinkedIn
• Sophia De La Parra on LinkedIn

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Simeon Van der Molen is the Founder & CEO of Moving Mountains Foods, a British company that offers a wide variety of alternative meat products, including their signature “meatless bleeding burger.” Simeon’s role is to create the world’s most realistic food tech products that also contribute to the long-term preservation of the environment. Simeon is also the owner of Ecozone, a privately-owned European manufacturer of detergent liquids and tablets.

Simeon joins me to share how Moving Mountains was created to “move mountains” in the plant-based food industry. He describes how his love for plant-based food began at a young age and how the vegan community reacted to the ‘meatless bleeding burger.’ He discusses the processes involved in making their meat products taste genuine. Simeon also explains how supermarkets helped keep his company afloat during the pandemic and why he is not enthusiastic about a novel product that’s not a meat copy.

"Having chefs with an open mind is important. In order to get onto the menu or in a restaurant, you’ve got to get past the chefs." - Simeon Van der Molen

This week on Ctrl-Alt-Meat:

• What sets Moving Mountains Foods apart from other plant-based foods
• Simeon's personal reasons on starting Moving Mountains Foods
• Why Simeon disliked animal-based products since he was 9
• How Moving Mountains Foods make their products taste like real meat
• The backlash Simeon received from the vegan community over what they call their products
• How supermarkets helped Moving Mountains Foods financially survive the city lockdowns
• Non-food items where animal parts are included
• How price pressure can indirectly ruin the environment
• Developments Simeon is excited to see in the coming years
• Will Simeon launch a product that is not a meat alternative?

Connect with Simeon Van der Molen:

• Moving Mountains Foods
• Ecozone
• Simeon Van der Molen on LinkedIn

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Temple Grandin is an American scientist and industrial designer who was diagnosed with autism. However, instead of letting her condition define her, she reasoned that people with autism can relate to the intense fear animals experience in slaughterhouses. She used her experience with autism to create systems that can help with the anxiety of both people and animals. Temple’s condition allowed her to possess a high IQ and obtain a Master’s degree and a Doctorate in Animal Science from Arizona State University. She is also the author of Thinking in Pictures, where she talks about how being autistic made her brain process information as if she were looking at pictures.

Temple joins me today to discuss how autism lets her develop efficient farm systems, especially those concerning animals about to be slaughtered. She explains  why previously-believed abnormal animal behaviors are now seen as normal today. She explains why engineering systems will only solve half the problems slaughterhouses experience every day. She shares the benefits and drawbacks of lab-grown meat and vegan alternatives. Temple also discusses how her passion for writing allowed her to educate beyond those who take her classes.

"A big centralized supply chain is very cheap and efficient, but when you break it, you have a ton of problems." - Temple Grandin

This week on Ctrl-Alt-Meat:

• Who Temple is and how autism allowed her to think outside the box
• Temple's initial observations regarding cattle handling and slaughtering
• Why building good facilities will only fix half the problem
• The changes made in slaughterhouses as a result of Temple's work
• Temple's thoughts on the slaughterhouses in the US
• The biggest issues in slaughterhouses and how people are desensitized to them
• How COVID-19 disrupted the global supply chain
• The pros and cons of lab-grown meats and vegan alternatives regarding sustainability
• How the industry can better apply humane slaughterhouse practices
• Why many great thinkers were likely autistic
• What inspired Temple to write about autism and the cattle industry
• What young people will no longer consider abnormal in the future
• How writing helped Temple find growth and success in her career
• Her advice to those who want to help the world realize how we can do better

Connect with Temple Grandin:

• Temple Grandin official website
• Book: Thinking in Pictures, Expanded Edition: My Life with Autism
• Book: Improving Animal Welfare: A Practical Approach
• Book: The Autistic Brain: Thinking Across the Spectrum
• Book: The Way I See It: 5th Edition: Revised & Expanded
• Book: Temple Grandin's Guide to Working with Farm Animals: Safe, Humane Livestock Handling Practices for the Small Farm

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