CUHK Anthropology Podcast 人類學與世界

坂本龍一說音樂使人自由。本集節目嘉賓——香港中文大學人類學系前高級講師陳如珍，也在她近年關於獨立音樂的研究中，看見創作人如何摒棄以財富累積（accumulation）為目標的人生，用音樂創造一個讓人與人連結和共鳴的聲音場域（sonic moment）。她亦談到如何離開田野，以及獨立音樂研究與自身的人類學生涯的連結和思考。最後，如珍以台灣歌手米莎的作品《紙鳶》，寄託她離開香港前的感受。

（本集訪問以普通話進行。）

In this episode, anthropologist Ju-Chen Chen, former senior lecturer at the Department of Anthropology, CUHK, talks about her recent research on independent music. She explores how the musicians live a life not aiming at capital accumulation. Instead, they make use of music to create “sonic moments” that connect people and lead to a sense of freedom. Ju-chen also touches on how to exit the research field, and the linkage between her research and her own path in anthropology. Lastly, she shares a song Kite by Taiwanese singer Misa (米莎) to express her feelings before leaving Hong Kong.

(This episode is conducted in Mandarin.)

00’38 研究獨立音樂 Becoming curious about indie music

14’50 他們是想用音樂改變世界嗎？ Do people make music to change the world?

38’11 如何離開田野 How to exit the field

42’30 人生不是追求什麼，而是成為什麼 Pursuing versus Becoming

《紙鷂》

米莎

你仔細綁我的骨架

溫柔糊紙

畫上彩虹的顏色

我是你手上的紙鷂

夏天　南風

你放長了線　要我輕鬆去飛

你說　不怕　慢慢的起

你說　不怕　緩緩的去

有時風大　　你怕線沒綁牢

有時無風　　又掛心我會跌落

我說　不怕　放手讓我去

我說　不怕　記得回家的老路

風大的時候　隨風高飛

風停的時候　就回來看你

香港中文大學人類學系系友伍志和，多年來從事歷史建築、文物及非物質文化遺產保育工作，曾參與上水應龍廖公家塾、西貢滘西洲洪聖古廟、景賢里等修復項目，保育古建築及傳統工藝。他指每個保育項目都像做人類學田野調查，須花時間跟不同持分者建立關係，深入了解他們的文化習俗。伍曾於人類學系任教「Seminars in Hong Kong Studies」一科，帶學生到訪新界圍村，更會安排學生食盆菜，發掘香港富有歷史文化的一面。

（本集訪問以廣東話進行。）

UG & MPhil graduate of the CUHK Anthropology Department Mr. Ng Chi Wo has been dedicating himself to studying and preserving historical architecture, tangible and intangible cultural heritage. He has participated in the conservation of Liu Ying Fung Study Hall (Sheung Shui), Kau Sai Chau Hung Shing Temple (Sai Kung), and King Yin Lei, among many others. Ng sees each conservation project similar to fieldwork experience, which requires a solid understanding of the local culture and beliefs, as well as building good relationships with various stakeholders. Teaching “Seminars in Hong Kong Studies” at the Anthropology Department, he takes students to local villages to get first-hand experience of the other side of Hong Kong.

(This episode is conducted in Cantonese.)

00’45 人類學與保育 Anthropology and cultural conservation

17’05 教授香港本土文化 Teaching about Hong Kong local culture

27’26 滘西洲及景賢里修復項目 Kau Sai Chau Hung Shing Temple (Sai Kung), and King Yin Lei conservation projects

44’20 歷史文化走進大眾 Connecting the public with local culture and history

香港中文大學人類學系博士畢業生安孟竹，博士論文以中國城市中自閉症兒童的家長為研究對象，了解他們在養育孩子時所面對的挑戰與糾結，勾勒出日常經驗之中，家長的嘗試與反思。安孟竹同時是人類學新媒體平台「結繩志」核心編輯之一，致力向大眾介紹人類學的觀點、方法與行動。今集節目中，安孟竹介紹她的自閉症研究，也分享她關於公共人類學的理解與嘗試，討論如何透過去中心化的知識生產方式，在學術與生活之間，翻譯溝通、跨越邊界。

（本集訪問以普通話進行。）

An Mengzhu, PhD graduate of the Department of Anthropology, CUHK, studies how parents in urban China strive for a dignified and worthy life for their children with autism by responding to various challenges at different stages of their children’s growth. Mengzhu is also one of the core editors of a new media anthropology platform "TyingKnots", which is dedicated to introducing anthropological perspectives, studies, and engagement to the public. In this episode, Mengzhu shares about her PhD research, discusses her understanding and practice of public anthropology, and explores how to transcend different boundaries through a decentralized way of knowledge production.

(This episode is conducted in Putonghua.)

00’39 中國自閉症兒童家庭養育研究 Raising children with autism in urban China

14’57 由社會學到人類學博士 From sociology major to PhD in anthropology

24’20 「結繩志」：公共人類學與去中心化的知識生產 “Tying Knots”, public anthropology, and de-centralized knowledge production

60’32 不斷跨越邊界的人類學家  To be an anthropologist, to be crossing boundaries

香港中文大學人類學系助理教授黃宣穎多年來在醫學與人類學之間游走，他於 2003 年畢業於國立臺灣大學醫學院，從事精神科，並於2013 年於哈佛大學獲社會人類學博士學位。黃宣穎專注於醫療人類學的領域，從 2008 年開始著手研究中國的「心理熱」，以及西方式心理治療在中國的發展。自稱為「半個人類學家和一個精神科醫生」的他，致力以人文社科的視角審視不同地方和社會的醫療觀念與實踐。

（本集訪問以普通話進行。）

Assistant Professor in the CUHK Department of Anthropology Dr. Hsuan-Ying Huang describes himself as “one psychiatrist and half an anthropologist”. He obtained an M.D. from National Taiwan University in 2003 and a Ph.D. in Social Anthropology from Harvard University in 2013. Huang emphasizes the importance of looking at medical systems and practices from a cultural and social point of view. In this episode, we will talk about his research on ‘psycho-boom’ in China, as well as how he traverses between disciplines.

(This episode is conducted in Putonghua.)

00’50 初探民族音樂 Discovering anthropology through ethnomusicology

13’23 從醫學到人類學 研究中國「心理熱」 From psychiatrist to anthropologist, researching on ‘psycho-boom’ in China

33’44 心理治療的多元可能性 The multiple possibilities of psychotherapy

40'59 醫療人類學的教學與未來 Teaching medical anthropology and its future

人類學家喜歡觀察細微的事物，以小見大。今集嘉賓楊陽把人類學家「用蟲仔的眼光看世界」的觀察方式，放諸藝術及日常生活上。從事教育、文字及策展工作的她，自香港大學社會科學學院本科畢業後，曾從事傳媒工作拍攝紀錄片，之後分別在耶魯大學及香港中文大學修讀人類學碩士及文化研究博士，並於2008年創辦藝術組織「聲音掏腰包（soundpocket）」，推動聲音及聆聽作為文化和藝術的一部分。現時她任職中文大學通識教育基礎課程講師。今集訪問，我們講到人類學的訓練，如何影響到她的藝術評論及策展工作，以更加微細的目光和敏感度看事情。

（本集訪問以廣東話進行。)

15’51 跨學科「碰撞」Cross-discipline ‘clash’

20’35 以人類學的目光看藝術 Anthropological way of viewing art

35’24 小而無力的力量 Being tiny but powerful

Dr. Venera R. Khalikova, lecturer in the CUHK Department  of Anthropology, has studied anthropology in India and Russia before acquiring her Ph.D. in Anthropology from the University of Pittsburgh, USA. She specializes in the cultural politics of medical plurality, nationalist discourse, body practices, and consumption with a focus on South Asia and the Himalayan region. In this episode, Venera shares her trajectory in anthropology, the meaning of medical pluralism in India, and her current research on Indian communities in Hong Kong. For her, “anthropology gives hope and teaches you to be kind”.

(This episode is conducted in English.)

香港中文大學人類學系講師 Venera R. Khalikova 先後於俄羅斯及印度修讀人類學，並於美國匹茲堡大學取得人類學博士學位。她的研究專注於南亞及喜瑪拉雅一帶的多元醫學療法、國族主義和消費背後的文化政治。在今集節目，Venera 會分享她如何「順其自然」地投身人類學，多元療法於印度的意義，以及她最近關於在港印度社群的研究。對她來說，「人類學帶來希望，教人變得善良。」

(本集訪問以英語進行。）

1’18 Different approaches of studying and teaching anthropology 人類學教與學之不同取向

17’22 From extreme sports in Russia to medical anthropology in India 由俄羅斯的極限運動到印度醫學人類學

31’57 Medical pluralism in India 印度的多元療法

48'59 Indian communities in Hong Kong and the value of anthropology 在港印度社群研究及人類學的價值

After “accidentally” taking one introductory course as an undergraduate student, Teresa Kuan, now Associate Professor at CUHK Department of Anthropology, decided to declare anthropology as her major. In this episode, Teresa walks us through her anthropology journey: how the first encounter of China anthropology blew her mind, how the experience of filmmaking can be related to fieldwork, and how her latest research on family therapy in mainland China engages with recent theoretical debates in the anthropology of morality and ethics, from people’s efforts in problematizing and addressing certain realms of human suffering and flourishing, to anthropologists’ positioning between “being suspicious of the power relation” and “appreciating the practical wisdom”.

(This episode is conducted in English.)

香港中文大學人類學系副教授關宜馨（Teresa）在本科時期「意外地」修讀了一個人類學的入門科目，由此開展了她的人類學歷程。本集訪問中，Teresa和我們分享首次接觸中國人類學的驚奇，電影製作的嘗試與田野調查的相通之處，以及她近期於中國大陸進行的、有關家庭治療的研究，在道德人類學視角中的理論討論：從人們「問題化（problematize）」特定範圍的人類處境並嘗試加以改善的努力，到人類學家在與受訪者互動之中，在「懷疑權力關係」和「理解實踐智慧」之間的定位。

（本集訪問以英語進行。）

01’11 An unexpected enter into the world of anthropology 意外走進人類學的大門

18'34 Motivation behind the research on family therapy in China 為何在中國大陸研究家庭治療

26'20 Mental illness, psycho boom and family therapy 精神疾病、「心理熱」與家庭治療

40’54 The logic of social practice 社會實踐的運作邏輯

55’28 Anthropology being eye-opening 人類學開闊人的眼界

本集節目嘉賓香港中文大學人類學系高級講師陳如珍博士，畢業於羅格斯大學人類學研究所，她的博士論文研究全球資本主義下的北京。從那時候開始，她便關注移工的故事，及後她在香港研究在港菲律賓移工的故事和選美活動，最近，她在研究香港和台灣的獨立音樂人，以及感官在田野調查中的重要性。她所關心的是不同人對於人生的願景和盼望。訪問的尾段，我們談到人類學如何為她困難的時候帶來一分安心。

（本集訪問以普通話進行。）

In this episode, we are speaking to Dr. Ju-chen Chen, senior lecturer of the Department of Anthropology at The Chinese University of Hong Kong. Ju-chen received her Ph.D. from Rutgers University. Her Ph.D. dissertation addresses the remaking of Beijing under the impacts of the late socialist Chinese state and the expansion of global capitalism in the early 2000s. She is keen on learning about the “aspiration” of different people, from Filipino workers in Hong Kong, to independent music communities in Hong Kong and Taiwan. The importance of senses in fieldwork also intrigues her. Towards the end of the episode, Ju-chen shares her view on how anthropology provides a sense of comfort during difficult times.

(This episode is conducted in Putonghua.)

00’57 在美國的人類學體驗 From psychology to anthropology, and the experience of studying in the U.S

08’43 全球化下的一百種北京 The many Beijings in globalization

26’00 在港菲律賓移工 Filipino migrant workers in Hong Kong

47’00 他們的盼望 On aspiration

52’00 獨立音樂研究 Research on independent music communities

59’00 人類學的意義 The meaningfulness of anthropology

人類學的研究方式講求對於與自己截然不同的他者的細心觀察、分析和記錄，碩士畢業於香港中文大學人類學的設計研究者徐巧詩（Ire），就把這人類學的訓練和思維方式，應用到她的傳媒工作和設計研究當中。她曾任職《明報周刊》編輯主任，現時從事策展和研究工作，是 Talking Hands工作室發起人，以及啟民創社成員之一，專注於老齡和認知障礙相關的研究。今集，巧詩會分享人類學與設計研究兩者如何相輔相成，令設計真正能夠回應人和社會的需要。

（本集訪問以粵語進行。）

Anthropology emphasizes the importance of observing, analyzing and articulating the culture and life of people who are very different from ourselves. Design researcher Ire Tsui, who graduated from the MA programme of CUHK Anthropology, applied anthropological training and way of thinking to her work in media and design research. Ire worked as managing editor for Ming Pao Weekly before founding design research studio Talking Hands and becoming a member of Enable Foundation. She is currently focusing on curatorial and research projects related to aging and dementia. In this episode, Ire will share how anthropology and design research can be blended creatively to truly meet the needs of the society and its people.

(This episode is conducted in Cantonese.)

01’00 由設計到人類學 From design to anthropology

11’05 人類學助記者問對問題 How to ask the right question?

15’57 如何老得好，死得好？ The study on aging and ‘Fine Dying’?

26’15 認知障礙症與設計研究 From dementia-friendly to dementia-freely

46’02 人類學為何重要？Why does anthropology matter?

剛通車不久的宋皇臺站，早年被發現埋藏了聖山遺址，引起大眾關注。今集我們訪問了從事考古挖掘和研究的中文大學人類學系助理教授黃慧怡，了解她如何透過考古遺址、舊物的碎片，甚至是骸骨，挖掘前人的生活、地方歷史文化、與外界的連繫。她強調，考古不是停留在過去，而是幫助我們理解現在和未來，建構人們的文化身份認同。

（本集訪問以粵語進行。）

The discovery of the Sacred Hill Site in the new Sung Wong Toi Station has aroused the public’s concern on conserving archaeological sites with historical importance. In this episode, we interviewed Assistant Professor Dr. Sharon Wong, who has devoted decades to archaeology and cultural heritage studies. Through investigating specific archaeological sites, relics, ruins and bones, Sharon digs into the local culture, history and human activities in the past, as well as the connections with the outside world. Sharon argues that understanding the past enables us to understand the present and the future, and it helps to construct our cultural identity.

(This episode is conducted in Cantonese.)

00’50 如何開始接觸考古學及開展東南亞考古研究 Introduction to archaeology and r research interest in South East Asia archaeology

21’41 考古研究為何物？它為何重要？What is archaeological studies and why is it important?

26’29 宋皇臺聖山遺址研究 追尋香港歷史 In search of Hong Kong history through the research on Sung Wong Toi Sacred Hill

46’42 考古學如何改變看事物的方式 How archaeology shapes the way of seeing the world