Welcome to the Cultiv8ing Ministry Podcast. It's a big week this week as the we celebrate our 40th episode of the podcast. We have some fun talking about how our podcast is moving into adulthood and remembering Mike Gundy's "I'm a man, I'm 40" rant (see the link below). Then we jump into a conversation ,leading up to our celebrating Independence Day here in the U.S., about finding a healthy line in leading in ministry when it comes to honoring Christ and our country in an effective way. In the current cultural climate, it seems that faith and nationalism lines are blurred too often in an unhealthy way, so we offer some explanation as to why we think that has happened as well as some pointers to walk that line in the proper manner. As always, we wrap up with yet another random fact of the week. Enjoy! If you like the Cultiv8ing Ministry podcast, please support us by sharing, rating, and reviewing the podcast on whichever platform you use.