Rising From The Rubble

Curiosity, Courage, and an Unconventional Career


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If one door closes… it doesn’t mean your story is over.


Sometimes it’s the very thing that puts you on the path you were meant to follow.


In this episode, I’m talking to Penny Hopkinson about what happens when life doesn’t go to plan and why that doesn’t have to be the end of the story.


Early in her career Penny was fired.


More than once.


She also didn’t have the qualifications people often say you need to succeed.


Many people would have taken that as a sign to stop.


Penny didn’t.


Instead, she followed her curiosity, developed her craft, and built a career in journalism that took her across the Middle East, reporting on the development of countries that would go on to become global powerhouses.


In this conversation we talk about resilience, building trust, and why your life experience can matter just as much as the letters after your name.


If you’ve ever felt like you’ve hit a brick wall, or questioned whether you should keep going, this episode is a powerful reminder that sometimes the rubble is exactly where you rebuild from.


Now, grab a cuppa, relax and press play.


About Penny

Penny Hopkinson is an operational governance specialist with nearly 40 years’ experience helping growing organisations protect intellectual property and scale with clarity.

She is an Amazon No 1 bestselling author of Manual Magic: Create the Operations Manual Your Franchisees Need to Succeed, endorsed by the British Franchise Association, and a contributing author to Amazon No 1 bestseller, The AI Edge: How to Thrive Within Civilization’s Next Big Disruption (2026), alongside 34 global experts examining the future of artificial intelligence.

As founder of Manual Magic AI®, a governance-first SaaS platform built on her three-step methodology, Penny focuses on one critical issue in the AI era: how organisations prevent operational chaos as technology accelerates speed.

Her work bridges governance, intellectual property protection, and scalable operational design.


To find out more go to:

LinkedIn: www.LinkedIn.com/in/pennyhopkinson

Linktree: www.linktr.ee/pennyhopkinson⁠


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Rising From The RubbleBy Maria Newman