Curious Goldfish Podcast

No following, no venues, so she booked her first tour playing for shelter cats.

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Rachel McIntyre Smith passed out cold when her keyboard collapsed on her hand at soundcheck, then got up and played the show anyway. The East Tennessee native sits down with Jason at AmericanaFest to talk about bypassing the industry's front door with a ukulele and a circuit of cat cafes, funding her music with a full-time multimedia day job, and her second EP, Honeysuckle Friend. Her song "Grow Up Slow" pushes back on the pressure to have life figured out before thirty. What happens when you stop measuring yourself against everyone else's timeline?

🎵 Rachel McIntyre Smith's latest: Honeysuckle Friend (2024)

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
0:45 Meeting at AmericanaFest in Nashville
1:32 What Tennessee Does Best
2:47 Building a Dream AmericanaFest Lineup
3:31 How a Collapsing Keyboard Won Over Gabe Lee
5:32 Life in East Nashville
7:10 The Day Job and the Leap
8:42 Small-Town Roots and Classical Piano
10:55 The Cat Cafe Circuit
13:13 Finding a Producer and Moving to Nashville
14:55 The Honeysuckle Friend EP
16:31 "Grow Up Slow" and the 29-Year-Old Deadline
19:19 The Biggest Challenge
21:42 "Parentheses" and What Goes Unsaid
22:30 "Memories in the Middle"
23:47 60 Seconds of Curiosity
25:54 The Honeysuckle Friend Sessions
28:00 Live Performance: "Parentheses" and "Grow Up Slow"

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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She has the following most musicians chase. She would rather you listen to the songs.

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Erin Gibney moved from Connecticut to Nashville at eighteen to attend Belmont, and spent the next seven years learning when to speak up. She talks with Jason English about writing "Kryptonite" after kissing a guy best friend, the five-year relationship behind "Exit Signs," and why she releases her music one single at a time so no song gets lost. She has the kind of social following most artists would trade a lot for, and she has spent the last year deciding what she actually wants to do with it. What happens when the thing you are good at online is the same thing you are trying to be taken seriously for offstage?

🎵 Erin Gibney's latest single: "Kryptonite" (2024)

⏱️ CHAPTERS

0:00 Introduction
0:52 Kissing A Coworker Or A Friend
2:43 Green Flags And Red Flags
4:27 Can You Escape The Friend Zone?
6:12 From Connecticut To Belmont
7:55 Building A Platform On Real Life
9:40 Learning To Say What She Thinks
12:30 "Kryptonite" And The Guy Best Friend
14:51 "Exit Signs" And The Five-Year Relationship
15:26 "By June" And The Myth Of A Healing Timeline
17:05 Brand Deals And Influencer Management
18:23 Touring, Co-Writes, And The Bluebird
20:00 60 Seconds Of Curiosity
23:52 Live Performance: "Not Something I've Told My Friends"

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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Thirty years in, Julian Taylor says the biggest obstacle he has ever faced is himself.

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Julian Taylor sat down with Jason English in Nashville during Americana Fest, a week before his new album Pathways arrived. A Toronto songwriter of Black and Indigenous heritage, he has spent thirty years moving from the rock of Staggered Crossing to the soul and Americana of The Ridge and Beyond the Reservoir. He talks about writing "Sixth Line Road" for hockey pioneer Herb Carnegie, the prejudice he has met in the industry, and why he keeps loosening his grip on what success is supposed to look like. What does a thirty-year career teach you about the voice in your own head?

🎵 Julian Taylor's latest: Pathways (2024)

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:00 → Welcome
1:21 → Americana Fest and the Pull of Music City
3:00 → Building Pathways and the Songwriting Process
5:00 → Staying Connected to Yourself and the Room
8:00 → Intentionally Confused: Measuring Success After 30 Years
12:00 → Albums as Snapshots in Time
14:07 → 60 Seconds of Curiosity
16:30 → The Paralympic Race and Glimpses of Hope
19:50 → Inside Pathways: Love, Justice, and Resilience
23:43 → "Love Letters" and the Lost Art of the Letter
24:50 → "Sixth Line Road" and the Story of Herb Carnegie
27:00 → Facing Prejudice in the Music Industry
30:02 → "Weighing Down" and Being Your Own Obstacle
32:19 → Live Performance: "As We Grow"

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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He built a fake album cover in 1974. Decades later, he'd worked with almost everyone he listed on it.

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Phil Madeira has spent thirty years as the quiet engine inside Emmylou Harris's band and a long list of Nashville's most soulful records. He sits down with Jason to trace the road from his 1994 stint in Rich Mullins's Ragamuffin Band to a faith he now describes as a continuum rather than a verdict. Along the way he talks about the grandmother whose constant disapproval may have made him an artist, the records he wrote to get through heartbreak, and the Mercyland collection he calls his life's work. He ends with a live take on "Midnight Mass," co-written with Sandra McCracken. What does it look like to feel at the top of your game at 72 and still be hungry to keep going?

🎵 Phil's latest: A Mercyland Christmas (2023)

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
0:43 Seeing the Ragamuffin Band in 1994
1:48 How an Accordion Led to Emmylou Harris
3:00 Why "Yes" Became His Mantra
6:00 Leaving the Christian Music World
10:00 God on the Rocks: Faith as a Continuum
14:00 Believing and Doubting at the Same Time
28:00 The Grandmother Who Shaped Him
30:00 Writing Through Loss and Anger
37:00 60 Seconds of Curiosity
39:00 At the Top of His Game at 72
46:00 The 1974 Record Cover That Came True
50:00 Mercyland and the Work of Goodwill
57:00 Live Performance: "Midnight Mass"

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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A combat medic who lost three friends, now chasing country music in Nashville.

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Omer Netzer left Israel for Nashville on what was supposed to be a three-week trip. Seven months later he is still here, knocking on doors at CMA and Whiskey Jam, introducing himself with a guitar and a story most people in country music have never heard. A combat medic who went back to serve after October 7th, he now writes songs he says are less about trucks and more about survival, faith, and the friends he lost. His first US single, "God Works in Mysterious Ways," is the one he says saved his life. What does a musician owe the people who can no longer speak for themselves?

🎵 Omer Netzer's latest single: "God Works in Mysterious Ways" (2024)

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
1:00 Seven Months in Nashville
2:04 Where the Confidence Comes From
3:20 The Only Israeli-Born Country Singer
4:00 Growing Up in Nahariya
5:00 From Pop Stages Back to His Roots
6:00 Bon Jovi's Manager and the Memphis Blues
9:00 Combat Medic at Eighteen
11:00 Going Back After October 7th
14:00 Hustling Into CMA and Whiskey Jam
19:19 "If Whiskey Was a Friend"
20:00 "God Works in Mysterious Ways"
24:00 Dreaming Big and the Music Business
25:33 60 Seconds of Curiosity
31:36 Live Performance: "Save My Soul"

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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An album written from anger, by an artist who calls anger a sign of care

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Humbird, the project of Minnesota's Siri Undlin, made Right On out of anger, and she's quick to call that a sign of care rather than something to apologize for. A preacher's kid raised in a progressive Lutheran community, she talks about a louder, grittier record shaped by George Floyd's murder and her own Minneapolis neighborhood, the slow grind of real change, and why she holds space for people carrying religious trauma. She gets into a decade of DIY touring, an obsession with folklore and storytelling, and why she'd rather cover Billy Joel than reinvent the wheel. What happens when the anger underneath a record turns out to be a form of love?

🎵 Humbird's latest: Right On (2024)

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:00 Cold Open
1:00 Touring "Right On"
2:00 A Grittier, Louder Record
3:00 Anger as Care
4:00 George Floyd, Minneapolis & Direct Lyrics
9:30 DIY Years & the Nashville Biker Bar
13:00 Preacher's Kid: Mom the Pastor
15:30 Holding Space for Religious Trauma
19:45 60 Seconds of Curiosity
22:30 Storytelling, Fairy Tales & Folklore
25:30 Covering the Men, and Billy Joel
28:30 Where the Band Is Now
31:30 The Themes of "Right On"
33:00 The Song Vault & Co-Writing "Fast Food"

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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A Tony nomination, a Belmont classroom, and motherhood: a working songwriter's many lives

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Lauren Lucas has done a lot of music's jobs: performer, songwriter, teacher, podcaster, with releases going back to 2004 and a Tony nomination along the way. She talks about playing the Bluebird, teaching songwriting at Belmont, writing the song "Motherlode," and keeping a marriage and a career running at once. She makes a real case that anyone can write a song, and she closes with "Motherlode." How do you keep making your own work while teaching everyone else to make theirs?

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
0:41 Early Career and First Releases
2:01 Playing the Bluebird Cafe
6:39 A Diverse Career
12:17 Balancing Motherhood and Music
19:03 The Story of "Motherlode"
30:39 Why Nashville Matters
34:45 Teaching at Belmont
39:29 The Truth in Country Music
57:16 The Co-Writing Process
1:03:49 Live Performance

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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Faulty in-ear monitors nearly ended her voice, and this is how she found it again

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Lindi Ortega stepped away from performing after faulty in-ear monitors wrecked her voice and her nerves. She talks about the hiatus, the divorce and losses that came with it, and the album "From the Ether" that pulled her back, a record that leaves her traditional country roots for something more personal. She relaunched at AmericanaFest under a new label, and she closes with a performance. What brings an artist back after the thing she does best stops feeling safe?

🎵 Lindi Ortega's latest: From the Ether (2024)

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:00 Struggles and Comeback
2:33 Vocal Challenges and Anxiety
3:21 From Painting Houses to New Music
3:53 AmericanaFest and the New Album
5:09 Rediscovering Confidence
9:54 Personal Losses and Resilience
10:30 Ghosts and New Music
12:01 Dating Post-Divorce
13:34 The Creative Process
25:27 Live Performance

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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She hid in a closet with a keyboard as a kid. Now she sings four nights a week on Broadway.

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Taydee Marie grew up moving almost every year, spending recess with praying mantises and evenings with a keyboard she kept hidden in her closet. Now she works Nashville's Lower Broadway four nights a week, carrying a tip bucket between cover sets while she waits for her band to learn her originals. She talks with Jason English about turning 27, the year she says she died to herself and started living for God, and about a warning song called "Unholy Ghost" built on Pharisees and whitewashed tombs. Her latest single "tipsy after two" plays lighter, but the same restlessness runs underneath it. What happens when the thing that isolated you as a kid becomes the thing that finally connects you to strangers?

🎵 Taydee Marie's latest: "tipsy after two" (2025)

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome and Meeting Taydee Marie
2:13 Dating Icks, Red Flags, and the Song That Scared a Guy Away
5:45 Chasing Inspiration for New Songs
6:37 The Meaning Behind "Unholy Ghost"
7:44 Growing Up in the Bible Belt
9:17 Turning 27 and Rededicating Her Faith
10:45 Broadway Bars and Working Originals Into the Set
12:05 The Story Behind "Redneck Crazy"
14:38 Where She Is as an Artist and Where She Wants to Be
15:56 Co-Writes and Learning 22 Songs in a Week
17:14 ADHD, Dyslexia, and Growing Up Different
20:03 60 Seconds of Curiosity
21:02 Boxed In as a Christian Artist
23:05 Favorite Worship Songs
24:00 Live Performance: "Tipsy After Two"
26:45 Live Performance: "Unholy Ghost"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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A songwriter who finds the funny and the painful in the same line

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Andy Gullahorn writes songs that sit in life's complexity, the parts that aren't black and white. He talks about a Christian upbringing he's still sorting through, the humor he keeps close even on heavy material, and the vulnerability behind a song like "Different Now." Compassion and rehumanizing people you disagree with run all the way through. How do you write something both funny and true about the hardest parts of being a person?

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:00 Embracing Complexity
2:30 Meet Andy Gullahorn
3:31 Soccer and Fatherhood
7:18 Current Projects
11:21 Compassion and Rehumanizing
20:32 The Church and Growth
27:54 The Song "Different Now"
39:14 The Good Kid Syndrome
42:11 Humor and Depth in Songwriting
50:27 Vulnerability in Songwriting
1:07:02 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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