Curious Goldfish Podcast

An Atlanta songwriter on making music raw enough to make you uncomfortable

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Davin McCoy doesn't smooth the edges off his songs. In part one of this In the Studio conversation, he talks about the emotional intensity in his music, the punk-rock energy underneath it, and a decade's backlog of songs he's pulling together for a new album. It's a deeply personal record, even with collaborators in the room. He closes with a fireside performance of "Rings" from a December 2023 house show. What makes a songwriter want to make you a little uncomfortable?

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:20 Discovering Davin McCoy
2:41 The Upcoming Album
4:08 The Recording Process
5:01 Past Experience in the Industry
6:56 Revisiting Old Songs
9:15 Emotional Connection Through Music
17:21 The Songwriting Backlog
20:07 The Themes of the Album
25:55 A Live Recording
31:55 Looking Toward Muscle Shoals
38:12 Live Performance

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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An Atlanta songwriter on losing her brother and the music she's making after

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Grace Asbury, an Atlanta native now in Nashville, writes from what she's lived. She talks about losing her brother Sam to suicide and how that loss shaped her as a person and a songwriter, alongside the practical grind of co-writing and finding her sound in Nashville. She's in a reset, with a run of singles on the way. How does someone turn grief that never fully leaves into something worth releasing?

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Power of Music
1:39 Grace Asbury, a Rising Voice
3:32 The Move to Nashville
6:40 Making It in Nashville
8:07 Co-Writing and Networking
14:35 A Musical Reset
18:27 Personal Experience and Storytelling
20:09 Losing Sam
27:28 Music and Grief
31:47 Gratitude and Healing
38:01 Upcoming Releases
38:54 Live Performance

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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She's not sure music can pay the bills, and she's freer in it than ever

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Vanessa Peters released "Flying on Instruments" in 2024, and she's clear-eyed about the business around it: AI bots, trademark headaches, and the long odds of a sustainable living. What she's found instead is freedom in making the music carefully and on her own terms. She closes the episode with two live performances. What does freedom look like once you stop expecting music to pay the bills?

🎵 Vanessa Peters' latest: Flying on Instruments (2024)

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
2:07 The Paradox of Today's Musician
2:48 The Songwriter's Journey
6:10 The Songwriting Process
8:32 The Personal Side of Songwriting
21:04 The Business of Music
26:44 Career and Future Goals
29:50 The Meaning of Music

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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She wrote a song to apologize to her best friend, and it brought him back.

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Grace Pettis wrote a song called "Landon" as an apology to her best friend, who came out after high school, and it helped rebuild the friendship. She talks about that song, about wanting more women's voices and stories in music, and about a new record shaped by loss and life after divorce. Ted Lasso comes up too, for its decency and its women. Can a song actually repair something between two people?

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:07 Songwriting as Therapy
1:31 Meeting Grace Pettis
2:15 The Ted Lasso Connection
5:56 The Church and Acceptance
9:08 The Story Behind "Landon"
12:11 Apology and Reconnection
22:02 Women's Voices in Music
26:32 The Upcoming Album
29:40 Live Performance

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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A Columbia deal, then releasing on her own, then stepping back for family

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Alice Peacock has seen the music business from both sides, signed to Columbia and then releasing her album "Minnesota" independently. She talks about her love of Prince, the Midwestern roots in her songwriting, and the years she stepped back to raise her family. Now she's ready to record and perform again. What does it look like to come back to music on your own terms after stepping away?

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction and Love for Prince
1:42 Alice's Musical Journey
3:04 Festivals
6:21 Influences and Style
8:17 The Art of Songwriting
14:45 The Early Career
17:48 From Label to Independent
19:59 The Changing Industry
24:59 Plans for New Albums
31:42 Roots and Heritage

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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A country veteran on saying yes more at 55, and enjoying the work more than she ever has.

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Kelly Willis has been in country music a long time, and she says she's enjoying it now more than ever. She talks about saying yes to more of what comes her way, the move from rockabilly to country, and the social anxiety she's worked through along the way. She also gets into her new trio, the Wonder Women of Country, and a forthcoming EP. What changes when you stop bracing against your career and start having fun with it?

🎵 Latest project: Wonder Women of Country (trio)

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Power of Saying Yes
1:44 Meeting Kelly Willis
2:31 Austin and the 30A Festival
5:11 Songwriting and Co-Writing
9:25 Affirmation and Taylor Swift
12:59 The Wonder Women of Country
17:33 Working Through Social Anxiety
20:37 The Pressures of the Spotlight
21:30 60 Seconds of Curiosity
27:04 Future Projects
29:02 The Changing Industry
32:05 Live Performance

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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A blind singer-songwriter on building a business and a brand the music industry didn't make room for

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Wyatt Edmondson has built an independent career on his own terms, and he is candid about both halves of it. The first half is business: the revenue streams and marketing that keep an independent musician afloat. The second is the art, and how his visual impairment has shaped the way he connects with a room. Faith runs through both. How do you build a living in music when the usual paths weren't designed with you in mind?

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:53 The Business of Independent Music
2:13 Vision and a Music Career
2:35 Live Performance and Conversation
5:12 Revenue Streams and Marketing
23:09 Music and Personal Growth
29:46 The Role of Faith
31:46 Future Goals
33:31 Live Performance

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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She wrote her album's title track from a true 1800s story, and now she's deep in her own family tree

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Amanda Donald builds songs out of other people's lives and her own. She talks about writing "100 Roots," the title track of her first album, from a true story set in the 1800s, and where her ear for narrative comes from. The conversation runs from songwriting to a fast game of red-flag-or-deal-breaker before she gets into her current rabbit hole: tracing her family tree on Ancestry. What pulls a songwriter toward other people's stories in the first place?

🎵 Amanda Donald's latest: 100 Roots

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:00 Attraction Theories
1:14 Meeting Amanda Donald
2:25 Festivals and the Road
3:30 The Debut Album, 100 Roots
5:55 The True Story Behind "100 Roots"
8:11 "When I Leave Alabama" and "Red Flags"
11:53 Red Flag or Deal Breaker?
17:05 Into Music and Songwriting
22:21 60 Seconds of Curiosity
23:34 Current Obsession: Ancestry
24:28 Live Performance

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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An Irish songwriter on the therapy that rebuilt her voice, and the silence she grew up in

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Clare Cunningham grew up feeling silenced, and cognitive behavioral therapy is part of how she found her way back to her voice. The Irish singer-songwriter talks about building an independent career, writing through her mental health, and the cultural roots that run under her music. She closes the episode with her anthem "I Swear," a song built to hold someone else up. What does it take to turn the hardest parts of your story into the thing that helps other people?

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:11 Personal Struggles
1:52 The Independent Artist Path
3:04 The 30A Songwriters Festival
3:54 Highlights of 2023
5:23 Mission and Transformation
7:51 Growing Up Silenced
8:54 Finding Therapy
15:47 The Thunder Mother Moment
22:03 Songwriting and Irish Roots
28:40 Live Performance

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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A Nashville songwriter on the stage fright he writes around, and the South that pulled his songs out

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Matt Killough moved from Denver back to the South, and the homecoming cracked his songwriting open. He traces the family ties across Florida, Georgia, and Alabama, the American roots and British folk that shaped his debut album, and the storytelling instinct at the center of his writing. He is also candid about the performance anxiety that sits oddly next to his love of making records. How do you build a music career around the part you love when the stage is the part you dread?

⏱️ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:36 Meeting Matt Killough
2:47 The 30A Songwriters Festival
5:56 Musical Influences
12:19 Making the First Album
18:11 The Stories Behind the Songs
26:26 Stage Fright and What's Next
34:02 Ted Lasso and Belief
37:04 Live Performance

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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