If you’re out here saying the SAME things as everyone else, in the same way, you’re doing yourself, your clients & your business a disservice.

The idea of “not watering down your message” has been a topic of discussion between Shay & I for a few years, and we finally found the PERFECT human to have this conversation with…

Sara from BTL Copywriting is an AMAZING example of what can happen when you allow yourself to show up as YOU in your business; creating content becomes easier, connecting with your clients becomes easier, and marketing, in general, becomes easier.

This convo is filled with so many golden nuggets of wisdom & inspiration, with some ridiculous stories, examples, and laughs along the way.

We hope you enjoy! ☺️

➡️ Sara’s perspective on always having to share her “origin story” 

➡️ Tapping into yourself for content ideas 

➡️ Thinking about “brand voice” differently when you’re a freelancer or solopreneur 

➡️ The difference between growing a business & growing a social media follower count

➡️ Which types of businesses have more trouble using AI for content creation

➡️ Tips for improving confidence in yourself & your message 

➡️ Being selective about who you get feedback from 

➡️ The issue with a lot of people’s “I help” statements & how to make it better 

>> Sara’s Newsletter: https://betweenthelinescopy.com/subscribe

Sara Noel is a Website Copywriter + Marketing Mentor for business owners who want to craft compelling narratives and build better connections with their ideal clients and customers. Through copywriting, marketing strategy, and mentorship, she helps creative brands, founder-first businesses, and freelancers create, tell, and sustain their success stories—with an emphasis on embracing their authenticity + attracting their ideal audiences.

When Sara’s not drafting website copy, teaching her students about content marketing, or sending an excessive amount of audio messages in response to a mentee’s question, you can find her nose-deep in an Elin Hilderbrand novel, dreaming up her next project, impulsively getting another new tattoo, or entranced in a stranger’s life story (because, yeah, she has that “tell me about your whole life!” face).

To get to know Sara—and learn from her tons of free marketing tips—visit her online at betweenthelinescopy.com, on Instagram @btlcopy, or subscribe to her newsletter, the Tuesday Table of Contents, at betweenthelinescopy.com/subscribe.

Curiously Guided: the podcast for intentional business owners & curious minds. Where the outer work meets the inner work, so we can create a life, business, and career that feels deeply fulfilling & wildly aligned.

✨ Website: Curiouslyguided.com

👉 Shay: saleswithshay.com | @saleswithshay

👉 Mariah:

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Curiously Guided, the podcast for intentional business owners & curious minds. Where the outer work meets the inner work, so we can create a life, business, and career that feels deeply fulfilling & wildly aligned.

✨ Website: Curiouslyguided.com
✨ Instagram: Instagram.com/curiouslyguided

Connect with The hosts’ Shay + Mariah:

👉 Shay: saleswithshay.com | @saleswithshay

👉 Mariah: mariahmagazine.com | @mariahmagazineco

We recorded this episode before finding the golden thread of this podcast: (combining the inner & outer work to build a business & life that you love) and not ironically, this convo was so perfectly aligned.

In the first half of the episode we dive heavily into the dropshipping world, with Brendan providing such great information (including industry secrets 😉), and then we take a step back and talk about wider philosophies related to stoicism, community building, and traveling the world as a digital nomad.

This conversation is filled with so much inspiration, and Brendan is a beautiful example that YOU get to build a business that supports the lifestyle that you’re truly craving for yourself.

We hope you enjoy! ☺️

➡️ What actually is dropshipping?

➡️ How to find lucrative dropshipping products

➡️ Industry “secrets” for streamlining & getting customer service in place 

➡️ Marketing that works for dropshipping

➡️ Community building based on the space you’re craving 

➡️ The downside & hardships of being a digital nomad  

➡️ Building routines & consistency from “anchor points” not necessarily the same schedule 

➡️ What is Stoicism & how Brendan uses it to ground him throughout his journey of building a life that feels uniquely perfect for him 

➡️ Lessons from reading the Daily Stoic 

➡️ Insights into growing together as a couple in a relationship

>> Free Consulting // Coffee Chat: https://calendly.com/boggles

Meet Boggles – a stoic philosopher, devoted husband, business development consultant, and e-commerce entrepreneur. Hailing from Jacksonville, Florida – GO JAGS! – he pursued an education at the University of Florida. Transitioning from his corporate role, he established Eagle Rock Consulting, guiding small and medium-sized enterprises toward growth. With his consultancy thriving, Boggles and his wife Kara embarked on an awe-inspiring journey, trading possessions for global exploration. Their first stop was Medellin, Colombia, where Boggles delved into crafting dropshipping websites. Currently, he oversees VeryGoodFireplaces.com and collaborates on TapeJungle.com with business partners.

>> Dropshipping Website: https://verygoodfireplaces.com/

Curiously Guided: the podcast for intentional business owners & curious minds. Where the outer work meets the inner work, so we can create a life, business, and career that feels deeply fulfilling & wildly aligned.

✨ Website: Curiouslyguided.com

👉 Shay: saleswithshay.com | @saleswithshay

👉 Mariah: mariahmagazine.com | @mariahmagazineco

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>> Buy us a coffee/support the podcast

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Curiously Guided, the podcast for intentional business owners & curious minds. Where the outer work meets the inner work, so we can create a life, business, and career that feels deeply fulfilling & wildly aligned.

✨ Website: Curiouslyguided.com
✨ Instagram: Instagram.com/curiouslyguided

Connect with The hosts’ Shay + Mariah:

👉 Shay: saleswithshay.com | @saleswithshay

👉 Mariah: mariahmagazine.com | @mariahmagazineco

The typical perspective around “finding your purpose” can set us on a rollercoaster ride of emotions, feeling super inspired one minute and then gutted with shame the next.

And we’re over it.

So we wanted to take the whole “finding your purpose” theory apart, inspect it from all different angles, and see if we could come up with a better & more empowering way to think about it.

A way that feels more true to who we are, and what we know about the world.

This episode is filled with stories, examples, fresh perspectives, and raw vulnerability.

We hope you enjoy!

➡️ Exploring what “finding your purpose” is in a traditional sense & why it sucks

➡️ What “finding your purpose” could ACTUALLY mean

➡️ Connecting the dots between purpose and authenticity

➡️ Being your own puzzle piece

➡️ Stories & examples to help inspire you on your “purpose” journey

➡️ Ways you can start exploring this idea on your own

>> ⚡️Learn About Mariah's NEW Networking Event

Curiously Guided: the podcast for intentional business owners & curious minds. Where the outer work meets the inner work, so we can create a life, business, and career that feels deeply fulfilling & wildly aligned.

✨ Website: Curiouslyguided.com

👉 Shay: saleswithshay.com | @saleswithshay

👉 Mariah: mariahmagazine.com | @mariahmagazineco

Additional Links & Resources Mentioned: 

>> Buy us a coffee/support the podcast

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Curiously Guided, the podcast for intentional business owners & curious minds. Where the outer work meets the inner work, so we can create a life, business, and career that feels deeply fulfilling & wildly aligned.

✨ Website: Curiouslyguided.com
✨ Instagram: Instagram.com/curiouslyguided

Connect with The hosts’ Shay + Mariah:

👉 Shay: saleswithshay.com | @saleswithshay

👉 Mariah: mariahmagazine.com | @mariahmagazineco

Feeling overwhelmed about creating video content? The perspective shifts in this episode are going to change. the. game.

Video marketing can feel super time-consuming, especially with fast-moving platforms like Instagram & TikTok, but our guest in today’s episode, Natashia Pierre (aka @shinewithnatasha), offers fresh perspectives & genius tips to help you approach it in a way that feels much more “low-lift”.

Get ready to be inspired, empowered, and completely rejuvenated when it comes to the world of creating video content…

We hope you enjoy! ☺️

➡️ Natasha’s journey of finding the online business space & becoming an entrepreneur

➡️ Growing pains from growing quickly & going viral on social media

➡️ Setting boundaries that feel good & recognizing limitations

➡️ Getting comfortable on video & embracing your uniqueness

➡️ Where to start focusing on your strengths

➡️ How to shift resistance around creating content for Instagram

➡️ Where to get started if you want to revive or strategize your Instagram profile

➡️ The LOW LIFT way to start creating short-form video content

➡️ Creating a flexible content structure that’s strategic, yet playful & personal

➡️ The future of video marketing

➡️ Reels vs. Carousels; which one is more effective?

>> Natasha's IG post about having a stock content day

Natasha is the host of the Shine Online Podcast and a Video Marketing Coach for small businesses. Through her signature group programs and educational content, Natasha helps you build your brand with a confident video marketing strategy that ultimately grows your business, community, and impact simultaneously.

>> Website: https://shinewithnatasha.com/

Curiously Guided: the podcast for intentional business owners & curious minds. Where the outer work meets the inner work, so we can create a life, business, and career that feels deeply fulfilling & wildly aligned.

✨ Website: Curiouslyguided.com

👉 Shay: saleswithshay.com | @saleswithshay

👉 Mariah:

Additional Links & Resources Mentioned: 

>> Buy us a coffee/support the podcast

Learn more about Curiously Guided:

Curiously Guided, the podcast for intentional business owners & curious minds. Where the outer work meets the inner work, so we can create a life, business, and career that feels deeply fulfilling & wildly aligned.

✨ Website: Curiouslyguided.com
✨ Instagram: Instagram.com/curiouslyguided

Connect with The hosts’ Shay + Mariah:

👉 Shay: saleswithshay.com | @saleswithshay

👉 Mariah: mariahmagazine.com | @mariahmagazineco

Wondering how you can start using Human Design for business? THIS EPISODE IS FOR YOU!

For both me & Shay, Human Design has completely changed the way we make decisions, how we interact with each other and the people around us, AND how we approach our careers & business.

We wanted to bring our guest, Adriana, on the podcast because we LOVE how practical & approachable she makes Human Design, especially in a business sense.

Because at the end of the day, if you want to get the most JUICE out of Human Design, in life or business, you have to stop focusing on *just* the learning of it, and instead start leaning deeper into the INTEGRATION of it.

During this convo, we dive into so many different aspects of Human Design, including decision-making, what to pay attention to, what questions to ask yourself, how to apply things in a practical way, and so much more…

We hope you enjoy! ☺️

➡️ Adriana’s journey of finding & using Human Design 

➡️ Human Design vs. other systems (astrology, enneagram, etc)

➡️ What’s your Authority in HD & what does it mean?

➡️ What’s your Strategy in HD & how can you use it? 

➡️ Using HD to make more aligned decisions in business (and life)

➡️ Using HD in relationships 

➡️ Deconditioning and what that means 

➡️ Ways to self-reflect and explore your subconscious 

➡️ Using your profile lines to help steer your business & marketing

>> Get your free Human Design Chart

Adriana Keefe is an award-winning real estate dropout turned Human Design Coach and Motivational Speaker. After her own "quarter-life crisis", she now teaches high achieving women how to use their own unique energy to create more success. Adriana is a 4/6 Manifesting Generator, wife and mother to 3 children, lover of wine and "New Girl", and host of The No BS Human Design Podcast.

>> Website: https://adrianakeefe.com/

Curiously Guided: the podcast for intentional business owners & curious minds. Where the outer work meets the inner work, so we can create a life, business, and career that feels deeply fulfilling & wildly aligned.

✨ Website: Curiouslyguided.com

👉 Shay: saleswithshay.com | @saleswithshay

👉 Mariah: mariahmagazine.com | @mariahmagazineco

Additional Links & Resources Mentioned: 

>> Buy us a coffee/support the podcast

Learn more about Curiously Guided:

Curiously Guided, the podcast for intentional business owners & curious minds. Where the outer work meets the inner work, so we can create a life, business, and career that feels deeply fulfilling & wildly aligned.

✨ Website: Curiouslyguided.com
✨ Instagram: Instagram.com/curiouslyguided

Connect with The hosts’ Shay + Mariah:

👉 Shay: saleswithshay.com | @saleswithshay

👉 Mariah: mariahmagazine.com | @mariahmagazineco

Kickin’ off season 4 with a BANG ya’ll 🔥

We’ve been exploring what “spirituality” means to us, behind the scenes for a long time. And in the downtime between seasons, we’ve been trying to find the words to articulate how we see this podcast moving forward, along with how we see the future of business unfolding…

Big surprise, it’s all connected lol

➡️ Exciting news about the podcast

➡️ What actually IS spirituality?

➡️ Untangling & redefining spirituality (for us)

➡️ Exploring the idea of “having faith in something bigger”

➡️ Building the habit of connecting to yourself & your soul

➡️ The common threads we see in high-achievers & successful business owners

➡️ Why the future of business is “spiritual” & what that means

This being human is a guest house.

A joy, a depression, a meanness,

Welcome and entertain them all!

The dark thought, the shame, the malice,

Be grateful for whoever comes,

>> Heart & Hustle Podcast (Christian-Based Podcast)

Curiously Guided: the podcast for intentional business owners & curious minds. Where the outer work meets the inner work, so we can create a life, business, and career that feels deeply fulfilling & wildly aligned.

✨ Website: Curiouslyguided.com

👉 Shay: saleswithshay.com | @saleswithshay

👉 Mariah: mariahmagazine.com | @mariahmagazineco

Additional Links & Resources Mentioned: 

>> Buy us a coffee/support the podcast

Learn more about Curiously Guided:

Curiously Guided, the podcast for intentional business owners & curious minds. Where the outer work meets the inner work, so we can create a life, business, and career that feels deeply fulfilling & wildly aligned.

✨ Website: Curiouslyguided.com
✨ Instagram: Instagram.com/curiouslyguided

Connect with The hosts’ Shay + Mariah:

👉 Shay: saleswithshay.com | @saleswithshay

👉 Mariah: mariahmagazine.com | @mariahmagazineco

Whoooop whoooop babyyyyy, this is our last episode for season 3.

Where has the time gone??? For real for real.

Join us in this episode as me & Shay explore authenticity from multiple angles, plus our own self-reflections, and where the podcast is headed...

Thank you so much for tuning into this podcast.

We appreciate you being here, see you in season 4!

In this episode, we explore:

➡️ Exploring what AUTHENTICITY actually is & the complexities of it

➡️ What we’ve learned over the past season from our guests, our listeners, and ourselves

➡️ The connection between curiosity & authenticity

➡️ The issue with watering down your message

➡️ How to start building confidence in your voice, your perspective, and your message

➡️ What we’ve been moving through in our own businesses & in life

➡️ What we see for the podcast moving forward

➡️ How we’re stepping into the next versions of ourselves

AI for SEO: Will Google Rank AI Content? (Mariah’s Blog Post)

FREE Meditation pack (includes dream day meditation)

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Instagram.com/curiouslyguided

Websites: saleswithshay.com & mariahmagazine.com

Instagram: @saleswithshay & @mariahmagazineco

Additional Links & Resources Mentioned: 

>> Buy us a coffee/support the podcast

Learn more about Curiously Guided:

Curiously Guided, the podcast for intentional business owners & curious minds. Where the outer work meets the inner work, so we can create a life, business, and career that feels deeply fulfilling & wildly aligned.

✨ Website: Curiouslyguided.com
✨ Instagram: Instagram.com/curiouslyguided

Connect with The hosts’ Shay + Mariah:

👉 Shay: saleswithshay.com | @saleswithshay

👉 Mariah: mariahmagazine.com | @mariahmagazineco

Holly’s whole perspective on business is refreshing as fuck. She’s a firm believer that you shouldn’t build your entire business on social media, but instead, use social platforms like Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok as your marketing “sidecar”.

In this episode, we explore what it means to have an “Anti-Social” business and “ditch the social drama”. Holly shares her real-life examples and stories of why ONLY relying on social media can be problematic, and what to do about it.

Plus we explore the power of pivoting, how to ask better questions, and the compound effect of taking the time to build relationships.

This is a JUICY one.

Get out your pen & paper bc you might just have a million ideas after listening 😉

➡️ Holly's journey of becoming an entrepreneur

➡️ The question that Holly started asking herself that changed everything…

➡️ The power of pivoting & keeping it simple

➡️ Starting where you are with what you have

➡️ Corporate world vs entrepreneur world

➡️ Anti-social business strategy; building your business without relying on social media

➡️ What Holly did when her Instagram got deleted during a launch

➡️ Making your marketing easier by repurposing content

➡️ Putting the emphasis on the customer/client experience

➡️ The magic of asking the right questions

➡️ The compound effect of taking the time to build relationships

➡️ What successful entrepreneurs have in common

➡️ Exploring multiple income streams in business

Holly’s “Ditch the Social Drama” Private Podcast Feed

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Holly helps female entrepreneurs create simple scaleable offers and systems to grow to multiple 6-figures without relying on the social algorithm. An industry expert and featured Thrive and Entrepreneur.com author with a 20-year business consulting background with Fortune 500 companies, Holly runs her strategic coaching business, the Crush the Rush Planner company, and hosts the top 100 Crush the Rush podcast while raising her twin daughters with her husband in Columbus, Ohio.

Website: https://www.hollymariehaynes.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thehollymariehaynes/

Curiouslyguided.com

Instagram.com/curiouslyguided

Websites: saleswithshay.com & mariahmagazine.com

Instagram: @saleswithshay & @mariahmagazineco

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>> Buy us a coffee/support the podcast

Learn more about Curiously Guided:

Curiously Guided, the podcast for intentional business owners & curious minds. Where the outer work meets the inner work, so we can create a life, business, and career that feels deeply fulfilling & wildly aligned.

✨ Website: Curiouslyguided.com
✨ Instagram: Instagram.com/curiouslyguided

Connect with The hosts’ Shay + Mariah:

👉 Shay: saleswithshay.com | @saleswithshay

👉 Mariah: mariahmagazine.com | @mariahmagazineco

This episode is JAM-PACKED with golden nuggets of info, including what it’s like to sell a blog (which we thought was pretty fucking cool lol).

Jenny shines the light on not only the power of blogging & content creation but also on the opportunities available for entrepreneurs to start making money by partnering with brands.

She gives so many tips & perspective shifts, along with being SUPER transparent about pricing and where to start with it when first starting out, which we LOVED.

This episode is a juicy one, we hope you enjoy it!

➡️ Jenny's journey from teacher to full-time blogger & coach

➡️ Pivoting from blogging as a hobby, to turning it into an actual business 

➡️ What it’s like to actually SELL a blog

➡️ Getting sponsorships even from a small audience

➡️ The importance of finding & using YOUR VOICE in your content

➡️ What brands look for when searching for creators for sponsorships 

➡️ UGC (User-generated content) examples

➡️ Establishing boundaries with brands

➡️ ACTUAL EXAMPLES for pricing sponsorships

➡️ Pivoting from gifted collabs to paid sponsorships 

➡️ Is blogging dead?

➡️ How you can use SEO to leverage paid sponsorships AND find gaps in the market for organic traffic 

➡️ Common mistakes that bloggers make that hold them back from the success they want

3 Secrets Brands are NOT Telling You About Sponsorships FREE Training

Jenny’s Book: Influencer Entrepreneur

How to Setup Google Search Console

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Jenny is a former reading specialist who “retired” from her teaching career when her blogging income far exceeded her salary. Through hard work and dedication, her lifestyle blog, The Melrose Family, became regularly sought out by nationally recognized brands such as Neutrogena, Smuckers, Glad, Costco, Stanley Steamer, Sara Lee, and many more. She is a content strategist that helps entrepreneurs better understand their messaging and unique position in the online space. 

Now, she’s combining her passion for teaching with her extensive experience of creating strategic content for online business owners via JennyMelrose.com and her podcast, Influencer Entrepreneurs with Jenny Melrose as well as her first book Influencer Entrepreneurs: The 4-Step Framework to Building Your Audience, Growing Your Business, and Making More Money Online.

Website: https://jennymelrose.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jenny_melrose/

Curiouslyguided.com

Instagram.com/curiouslyguided

Websites: saleswithshay.com & mariahmagazine.com

Instagram: @saleswithshay & @mariahmagazineco

Additional Links & Resources Mentioned: 

>> Buy us a coffee/support the podcast

Learn more about Curiously Guided:

Curiously Guided, the podcast for intentional business owners & curious minds. Where the outer work meets the inner work, so we can create a life, business, and career that feels deeply fulfilling & wildly aligned.

✨ Website: Curiouslyguided.com
✨ Instagram: Instagram.com/curiouslyguided

Connect with The hosts’ Shay + Mariah:

👉 Shay: saleswithshay.com | @saleswithshay

👉 Mariah: mariahmagazine.com | @mariahmagazineco

This episode was NOTHING like I thought it would be, and everything we needed. Truly. Especially after listening back, there are SO MANY good nuggets of wisdom in here.

This is going to be an episode that I personally listen back to over and over again.

During the conversation, we dive into the depths REAL QUICK about how easy it is for our identities & self-worth to become wrapped up in our business, along with how each of us is handling it.

We also get into the details of Ryan’s journey, what he’s learned about self-worth, blogging, partnerships, and harnessing A.I. in a way that’s exciting for him.

If you feel like you’re constantly trying to balance structure, with intuition, this episode was made for you.

We hope you enjoy it. Thanks for being here :)

➡️ Ryan’s journey of turning his hobby blog into a successful business & beyond

➡️ De-coupling & detaching yourself from your business 

➡️ Starting off your day getting the “feel good” from yourself vs. seeking it from outside of you

➡️ Balancing having goals & structure, with shiny object syndrome & experimenting with business 

➡️ Coming back to yourself & shifting perspectives

➡️ Exploring the energetic frequencies of self-doubt through the Gene Keys lens

➡️ The power of asking questions & curiosity

➡️ Harnessing A.I & allowing our businesses & ourselves to evolve 

➡️ Our experience with partnerships in business

Check out RightBlogger 

Wisdom of the Masters (Meditations & Spotify Playlist)

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Ryan Robinson is a blogger, podcaster, Head of Content @ Close.com, and (recovering) side project addict that teaches 500,000 monthly readers how to start a blog and grow a profitable side business at ryrob.com.

Website: https://www.ryrob.com/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheRyanRobinson

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theryanrobinson/

Curiouslyguided.com

Instagram.com/curiouslyguided

Websites: saleswithshay.com & mariahmagazine.com

Instagram: @saleswithshay & @mariahmagazineco

Additional Links & Resources Mentioned: 

>> Buy us a coffee/support the podcast

Learn more about Curiously Guided:

Curiously Guided, the podcast for intentional business owners & curious minds. Where the outer work meets the inner work, so we can create a life, business, and career that feels deeply fulfilling & wildly aligned.

✨ Website: Curiouslyguided.com
✨ Instagram: Instagram.com/curiouslyguided

Connect with The hosts’ Shay + Mariah:

👉 Shay: saleswithshay.com | @saleswithshay

👉 Mariah: mariahmagazine.com | @mariahmagazineco