What happens when you do everything right —
work hard, chase the dream, build the body, build the business —
and still feel empty?
In this long-form conversation, two young men share their raw journey from:
• chasing money and success
• door knocking and building a business from nothing
• living for hustle, discipline, and image
…to realising that achievement alone wasn’t enough.
This isn’t a motivational talk.
It’s not anti-ambition.
And it’s definitely not performative.
It’s an honest conversation about:
• emptiness after progress
• why success doesn’t automatically bring peace
• what young men are actually searching for
• and how hope showed up when they weren’t even looking for it
If you’re grinding, improving yourself, doing “what you’re supposed to do” —
but still feel like something’s missing…
This conversation is for you.
Watch with an open mind.
Take what resonates.
Leave the rest.