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Cyber Leadership without the Ego featuring Olivia Phillips
Most cybersecurity conversations obsess over tools, threats, and tech. But what if the real evolution is happening in the human layer, a shift most in the industry aren’t used to seeing?
In this episode, BISO and industry voice Olivia Phillips join Nate and Lior to redefine what effective security leadership looks like in the age of AI. Olivia shares insights from behavioral science, organizational psychology, and decades of cyber experience, revealing why influence without authority, real transparency, and emotional intelligence are now core cybersecurity capabilities. She also discusses the future impact of quantum, the shift toward value-driven security investments, and why trust is earned, not given.
Impactful Moments:
00:00 — Introduction
01:00 — What is a BISO
03:00 — AI, quantum, and the next era
05:30 — Building influence without authority
09:00 — Security ROI: “Show me the value”
11:00 — Ego, communication, and human dynamics
14:00 — Trust: hard to earn, easy to lose
17:00 — How real AI adoption happens
22:00 — If Olivia got 25% of her time back
29:00 — Transparency, feedback, and leadership growth
34:00 — Chaos, creativity, and the “cyber misfit” mindset
Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at [email protected]
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By 7AIMost cybersecurity conversations obsess over tools, threats, and tech. But what if the real evolution is happening in the human layer, a shift most in the industry aren’t used to seeing?
In this episode, BISO and industry voice Olivia Phillips join Nate and Lior to redefine what effective security leadership looks like in the age of AI. Olivia shares insights from behavioral science, organizational psychology, and decades of cyber experience, revealing why influence without authority, real transparency, and emotional intelligence are now core cybersecurity capabilities. She also discusses the future impact of quantum, the shift toward value-driven security investments, and why trust is earned, not given.
Impactful Moments:
00:00 — Introduction
01:00 — What is a BISO
03:00 — AI, quantum, and the next era
05:30 — Building influence without authority
09:00 — Security ROI: “Show me the value”
11:00 — Ego, communication, and human dynamics
14:00 — Trust: hard to earn, easy to lose
17:00 — How real AI adoption happens
22:00 — If Olivia got 25% of her time back
29:00 — Transparency, feedback, and leadership growth
34:00 — Chaos, creativity, and the “cyber misfit” mindset
Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at [email protected]