Today, in an extended show, Bret and Ovie talk with Phil Zimmermann, creator of PGP encryption software. Phil talks about his new Zfone project. Bret and Ovie also talk about a UK teacher who is fired for showing porn to students, steps of a forensic exam, new Microsoft Word vulnerability, Shaw Carpenter gets 4.3 million for wrongful termination, a man sentenced for stealing data from the American College of Physicians, another laptop missing; this time from St. Marys Hospital emergency care center, Belgian court upheld ruling that prohibits Google from using snippets of headlines, TubeSock, Mac Media Center Project, Ext2 in Windows, Metalosis Maligna, and online presentations.