If I was still keeping up with seasons for the podcast, this would be the last episode of season 12😬 We've been at it for a long time! In this episode I caught up with one of my childhood friends, Chris Batie. I've wanted to have bro on for a minute now. We talked all things fatherhood including the benefits of having positive role models, teaching the importance of family closeness, legacy, and the challenges of fatherhood.