This week I spiraled out with hilarious and deeply relatable novelist, television writer & painter Ali Liebegott!   We talked regret, people pleasing and the shame of saying no,  making mistakes and accepting your own and others' flaws , accidentally farting on a stranger in a grocery store, taking your students to a casino, wishing your childhood fish was more like a dog and SO MUCH MORE.   

Ali's published a handful of incredible award-winning books, including : The IHOP Papers, The Beautifully Worthless, Cha-Ching!, and The Summer Of Dead Birds. She's also written for television,  including on amazing shows like Transparent, The Sex Lives Of College Girls, I Love That For You, and The Connors.  And Ali is also a painter- check out her gorgeous work on aliiebegott.com, and follow her on Instagram @friendofducks. 

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*In the episode, I tell Ali a shameful story involving me, her, and an Eminem song....if you must know, this is the song in question: https://open.spotify.com/track/1HR2CTi0ytRJIcik1QKdOa?si=700c6968828942a0

Audio Engineer: Sarah Gabrielli @therealsarahgabrielli @cruisingpod 

Original Music: Shadwick Wilde, Instagram and Twitter: @shadwickwilde

Cover Art: Cassidy Kulhanek, Instagram, Twitter and TikTok: @heavenlygrandpa

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