There are an unimaginably great number of places in the Universe where a civilization, similar to ours, could emerge and develop. Some of these civilizations must have appeared a very long time ago, and their representatives would have had enough time to reach the Earth and/or manifest themselves through what may seem like miracles or magic. Why don't we notice any of these? Tonight's discussion will focus on the most likely answer - the hypothesis that some civilizations which did not self-destruct, and after hundreds of millions of years of peaceful evolution, beyond the stage we are today, have turned into something else, that we can call hyper-civilizations. They are watching over any new civilization that is born in the Universe, but with only minimal interventions in its evolution, with no technology exchange, help, or invasion. They could be near us for a long time, but our minds cannot accept this fact, because of a "cultural hypnosis", produced by our materialist science. We ask you to remain open minded, because reality may sometimes be very different than we know it.