Deborah Dobbs delves into the troubling traits of psychopathy in leadership, particularly within nonprofit organizations. She shares a personal story of being deceived by a nonprofit CEO displaying dangerous personality traits, leading to significant financial misconduct. The discussion highlights the consequences of poor leadership, the importance of accountability, and the ethical responsibilities of donors. Dobbs emphasizes the need for due diligence in hiring practices and reflects on the broader implications of trust and integrity in nonprofit work.

Takeaways

Psychopathic traits can manifest in leadership roles, especially in nonprofits.

CEOs often prioritize profit over people, leading to unethical behavior.

Personal experiences can reveal the dangers of trusting the wrong individuals.

Fraud and embezzlement are serious issues in nonprofit organizations.

Leadership failures can have devastating consequences for communities.

Legal battles can distract from the real victims of nonprofit fraud.

Donors must be vigilant and informed about where their money goes.

Trust your instincts when dealing with potential deception.

Due diligence in hiring is crucial to prevent future issues.

Nonprofit integrity is essential for maintaining public trust.

Chapters

00:00 The Dark Side of Leadership: CEOs and Psychopathic Traits

02:37 The Nonprofit Sector: A Frontier for Malfeasance

04:28 Spotting Dangerous Personalities: A Personal Experience

06:55 The Case of the Deceptive Executive Director

09:21 Unraveling the Lies: Investigating the Executive Director

11:42 The Fallout: Legal Consequences and Revelations

14:13 The Courtroom Drama: A Deep Dive into the Lawsuit

26:36 Uncovering Financial Misconduct at Emily's Place

29:33 The Struggle for Accountability

32:25 Legal Battles and Mismanagement

35:09 Blame Shifting

39:08 Problematic Nonprofit Operations

42:54 The Illusion of Charity

46:35 Misuse of Donations and Ethical Concerns

48:22 Cognitive Dissonance and Warning Signs

51:55 Hiring Practices and Organizational Integrity

55:42 Psychopathy in Corporate Culture

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Dobbs dives beneath the surface of psychosis, psychopathy and sociopathy. How are these conditions different? What triggers them?

A few resources:

The Psychopath Whisperer:

https://www.amazon.com/Psychopath-Whisperer-Science-Without-Conscience/dp/0770435866

Bryn Spejcher on Dr. Phil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKLZ22grPas

A bit about David Carmichael's psychotic episode:

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While some detectives welcome any excuse to avoid investigating, others give it their all.

During the months that followed, she grew weary and frustrated over her hometown law enforcement's response (or lack of) to a neighbor with special needs, suffering ongoing abuse and neglect by his "caretaker". Deborah was starting to wonder if the trafficking reports were being swept under the rug like her neighbor's case.

Then a detective in the Dallas PD Vice Unit delivered some good news.

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Last Episode was Part 1 of the Billy Chemirmir case, and retired Plano Police Lieutenant Doug Deaton didn’t hold back on how Dallas so-called leadership dropped the ball, allowing a psychopath to victimize the most vulnerable, killing at least 22 elderly women between 2016 and 2018. If it hadn’t been for survivor Marty Bartel and the tenacious detectives at Plano Police Department, Chemirmir might still be killing people today.

In Part 2, we flip the script to retirement communities, like The Tradition-Prestonwood and Edgemere. Chemirmir the serial killer waltzed right in, pretending to be a worker, and committed his crimes undeterred. Despite alerts by a legit home health care provider and a maintenance man, management turned a blind eye to multiple deaths and the creep roaming around the property because they cared more about looking boujee than locking doors. Stick around as we unpack this mess, and then Doug will give us some great tips on how to check if those safety measures apartments and retirement communities brag about actually hold up.

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People were dying in Dallas, Texas, and their loved ones knew something was wrong. Despite their pleas, the powers that be in Dallas ignored the evidence -- the evidence linked to Billy Chemirmir, possibly the most prolific serial killer in history. Doug Deaton was a lieutenant in investigations at Plano Police Department, the department responsible for bringing Chemirmir's killing spree to an end. Deaton speaks the truth about the politics of murder, the DA's broken promises, and other details you won't hear in the documentary.

Pillowcase Murders

https://www.fox4news.com/news/billy-chemirmir-murder-trial-closing-arguments-to-begin-in-accused-serial-killers-murder-trial

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/crime/dallas-serial-killer-billy-chemirmir-convicted-of-capital-murder-in-death-of-another-elderly-victim-receives-second-life-sentence-officials-say/287-0f36d04d-4f2d-4d1e-9b73-7ddb77f5dc00

Cruezot's U-turn on death penalty: https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/billy-chemirmir-dallas-da-wont-seek-death-penalty/287-bd78bb02-e7b5-40a8-8d5a-83163d3e0e2a

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-charged-killing-18-women-dallas-area-convicted-1-murder-rcna26574

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Doug Deaton, retired Lieutenant with Plano Police Department and founder of RDR Private Investigations & Crisis Management joins Deborah Dobbs to discus several psychopathic predators he encountered during his career with Plano PD. In this episode, Deaton shares how he went from running from cops to becoming one. Early on, Deaton showed a knack for spotting predators, including a criminal justice professor at the University of North Texas.

Dangerous Personalities: An FBI Profiler Shows You How to Identify and Protect Yourself from Harmful People https://bit.ly/4izahiW

Doug Deaton's RDR Private Investigations and Crisis Management: https://rdrtexas.com/

Miami Bus Hijacking:

https://www.southcoasttoday.com/story/news/1995/11/03/school-bus-hijacker-had-tax/50654685007/

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/1995/11/15/school-bus-hijacker-had-hepatitis/

https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1996/08/12/9-months-later-school-bus-hijacking-haunts-children/

James Francis Quinn, PhD Info:

https://www.ntdaily.com/news/longtime-unt-professor-indicted-on-child-pornography-charges/article_dc83e9fe-0981-50db-929f-5cd6f35c40ae.html

Quinn was convicted, served time in prison, and must register in the sex offender registry for life.

Just because:

https://planomagazine.com/planos-best-gas-station-tacos/

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During daylight hours, Stanley Ledbetter seemed like an ordinary professional guy, but under the cover of darkness, he was a brutal, psychopathic rapist, robber, and murderer. He committed horrific acts of violence against women, often in front of their spouses. Seven police departments and the Texas Rangers joined forces to hunt him down. As a Plano PD SWAT member, Doug Deaton was a part that hunt, and he will share shocking, albeit useful, information about Ledbetter's tactics and how you and your loved ones can avoid evildoers like him.

At least two of Ledbetter’s victims chose firearms training:

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/after-attacks-these-north-texas-women-found-security-in-the-weapon-they-once-feared/287-549516825

https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/jury-convicts-plano-man-in-brutal-home-invasion/

Regarding the Plano officer and the QT shooting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjGF-3oMTCs

One of many articles about the Delta Crash:

https://www.waka.com/2025/02/17/delta-air-lines-jet-flips-after-landing-at-airport-in-canada/

Stanley Ledbetter:

https://abc13.com/archive/6066587/

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2010/09/14/frisco-sex-assault-trial-opens-with-testimony-about-stabbings/

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Every first responder or crisis worker has a case that haunts them. Mine was my first crisis call after a woman was murdered by her ex in front of her two young children. The call was horrific, especially for a new advocate, but it was exacerbated by my boss, an unethical woman who loved power and had a twisted relationship with a corrupt police chief. The worst part, though, was hiding the truth from two young children. In the end, the youngest called me out.

For help with understanding the warning signs for domestic violence and safety planning, please visit thehotline.org.

To read the Victim Advocate Colleen Heenan series by Deborah Dobbs, visit her page on Amazon. Both The Psychotic Son and VILE are available on KU.

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Deborah reveals some truths behind a "botched prostitution sting" in Lewisville, Texas. Trafficking expert Joe Scaramucci returns to confirm whether two locations near and dear to her have been infested by sex trafficking. A simple Google search provides the answer. WARNING: this episode contains graphic language and discussions of sexual violence. Listener/Viewer discretion advised!

Skull Games Nonprofit Organization. "We provide analytical and operational support toe Law Enforcement Agencies to interdict sex predators."

Texas Attorney General "Texans are not for Sale - Red Flags"

Texas Penal Code Title 9. Offenses Against Public Order and Decency. Chapter 43. Public Indecency. Subchapter A Prostitution.

13 North Texas officers violated protocol during investigation into alleged prostitution at massage businesses, chief says

Too much touching: Inside the botched prostitution investigations at Lewisville PD

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By the time he was 18 years old, Frank Garrison had dedicated his life to violent crime. His MO involved breaking into women's unoccupied cars, masked and wielding a knife, and lying in wait. One of his arrests inspired a scene in Dobbs' second novel VILE. In this episode, the arresting officer shares the facts that inspired the fiction, and Dobbs shares how that arrest impacted Garrison's would-be victim. Sadly, despite continued efforts by the officer and many others, the system released Garrison to do it again. Even after receiving a life sentence, Garrison walks among us.

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