In this episode of Law Firm Growth Lab Podcast, fractional CFO and CPA Kelley Brubaker (Profit Scale Thrive) sits down with Scott Berry live at Kaleidoscope 2025 in Austin to map out a practical, data-first path for immigration and family law firms.

You will hear why accurate inputs beat gut feelings, how to reconcile P&L vs cash in the bank, and the often-missed role of debt service and owner distributions. Kelley walks through a one-week time study to design your first or next hire, what to track at $250k vs $1M vs $10M, and how to simplify your tech stack so systems talk to each other. Whether you are solo or scaling, you will leave with a clear next step based on numbers, not noise.