In this episode of Talentless, Desiree Goldey and Ashley King sit down with Ben Abear to talk about why modern hiring breaks when decisions are driven by feelings instead of facts.

Ben shares how data builds trust, strengthens partnerships with the business, and helps recruiters move from order takers to true strategic partners even on small or under-resourced teams.

We dig into what hiring metrics actually matter, how qualitative insight adds critical context, and where AI can support (but not replace) good decision-making.

What you’ll hear:

Why data is essential in today’s hiring landscape

How trust with the business is built through clarity

The role of qualitative data in better hiring decisions

How small teams can still leverage data effectively