Summary: In this episode, Mercedes and Cynthia delve into the complex narratives surrounding true crime, focusing on the cases of David Bieber and David Snipes. They explore the chilling details of their crimes, the legal proceedings that followed, and the implications of juvenile sentencing laws, particularly in light of the Miller vs. Alabama ruling. The conversation also touches on the differences in prison life and sentencing between the US and UK, as well as the psychological factors influencing the behavior of the criminals discussed. Throughout, the hosts maintain their signature humor while addressing the serious nature of the topics.

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Resources:

• https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rage-on-the-run/

• ⁠https://www.thefreelibrary.com/PUMPED+UP+TO+KILL%3B+Hitman+awaiting+orders+to+kill+Ex-marine+with+11...-a0125691862⁠ *

• ⁠http://www.murderpedia.org/male.B/b/bieber-david.htm⁠

• ⁠https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1999/04/23/teen-killer-s-death-sentence-reversed/⁠ (Snipes; mitigating factors)

• ⁠https://militaryjusticeforall.com/tag/markus-mueller/⁠ (Excellent details)

• ⁠https://www.newspapers.com/clip/98613988/ep79-bieber-schoolmates-talk/⁠ *

• ⁠https://www.newspapers.com/clip/98614493/ep79-biebers-dad-talks/⁠

• ⁠https://www.newspapers.com/clip/98614701/ep79-mark-mueller-found-dead-in-his-apa/⁠

• ⁠https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/dec/03/ukcrime.helencarter⁠

• ⁠https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-13313047⁠

• ⁠https://caselaw.findlaw.com/fl-supreme-court/1403419.html⁠

• ⁠http://newssvet.blogspot.com/2016/05/my-life-of-terror-with-cop-killer.html⁠

• ⁠https://www.newspapers.com/clip/99506667/ep79-danielle-labelle-arrested-again/⁠

• ⁠https://www.newspapers.com/clip/99506833/ep79-snipes-and-saldino-indicted/⁠

• ⁠https://www.newspapers.com/image/801994487/⁠

• ⁠https://websleuths.com/threads/uk-david-bieber-convicted-cop-killer-on-trial-for-attempted-murder-of-prison-guard-10-oct-2017.490520/⁠

• ⁠https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4244273/david-bieber-stab-prison-officer-murder-lifer-police/⁠

• ⁠https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/stories/allen-davis⁠

• ⁠https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/dec/29/ukguns.helencarter⁠

• ⁠https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/nov/19/ukcrime⁠

• ⁠Inmate Population Information Detail⁠

• ⁠https://www.thefreelibrary.com/MARRY+AND+LOSE+pounds+650+%2C+000%3B+Hero+policeman%27s+widow+hit+by...-a0131093144⁠

• ⁠https://youtu.be/wh-JPPsBl2I?si=VTg5OqqKhTg0p5zo⁠

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