There is a lot of talk these days about which apple cart China may or may not decide to upset next in its neighborhood (looking at you, Taiwan). To have an informed conversation about that, however, it’s important to keep abreast of the latest military developments, which is why I’m delighted to be joined by Sam Roggeveen, Director of the Lowy Institute’s International Security Program and noted expert on the region’s armed forces. We discuss the rapid Chinese naval and strategic build-up, what Australia should (and shouldn’t) do to respond to this challenge, and what Biden’s withdrawal in Afghanistan might mean for the future of American power in Asia.