In this episode, DMP collaborators Jaelyn Taylor and Juan Diaz Mercado interview Davidson alumnae Isabel Ballester and Morgan Spivey about building community, finding your people in white dominant (academic and other) spaces, and (re)discovering identity through immersive, newfound knowledge gained in both in/formal educational settings. They stress the importance of diversifying the faculty and supporting professors of color and interdisciplinary programs, as these are often key sources of support for students of color. Isabel and Morgan elaborate upon how they have continued to harness knowledge and empowerment through their positionalities as Black and Afro-Latina queer women beyond their undergraduate education. They talk about Black imagination, hope, happiness, freedom, affirmations, and starting where you are to make moves in the struggle, including why we should all move beyond passive not-racist pledges and be actively anti-racist. Isabel and Morgan describe microaggressions as a language of hate entrenched in systemic macro-issues. Tune in to hear this dynamic duo explain the ‘step up and step back’ method to deal with, confront, and overcome microaggressions.