Hospice Nurse Penny and Halley (Hospice Social Worker) welcome you on the journey to #NormalizeDeath!

We appreciate you joining us for Season 2 and hope you will subscribe so you will be notified of season 3. We appreciate all efforts to rate, review, and subscribe so others might find us.

Don’t forget to check out Penny’s book, Influencing Death; Reframing Dying for Better Living most places you get tangible and audio books!

Questions? Interested in being a guest? You can reach Penny and Halley at [email protected], on all places you find podcasts are found. A video option can be found on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@DeathHappensInsiders and we are working to upload on Spotify as well.

NHPCO: https://www.nhpco.org/ 

https://www.hospicenursepenny.com/ 

Hospice Nurse Penny on the socials: @HospiceNursePenny

Halley on the socials: @HospiceHalley

Our intro music was composed by Jamie Hill http://misfitstars.com/

Hospice Nurse Penny and Halley (Hospice Social Worker) welcome you on the journey to #NormalizeDeath!

Our guest is author and palliative care chaplain Hank Dunn. Since 1983, Hank Dunn has been ministering to patients at the end of their lives and their families. During that time he has served in a nursing home, hospice programs and a hospital. He has become an expert on the topic of helping patients and families with end-of-life decisions.

He is a past president of the Northern Virginia Chapter of the Alzheimer’s Association and has served on several ethics committees. Hank has been a speaker nationally on the topic of making end-of-life decisions and spirituality and healthcare.

To help him explain end-of-life decisions to patients and families, he wrote a booklet to hand to them so they could reflect on the issues discussed. As an afterthought, he sent the book out to other institutions to see if they would be interested in purchasing it for their clients. First published in 1990, Hard Choices for Loving People: CPR, Feeding Tubes, Palliative Care, Comfort Measures, and the Patient with a Serious Illness is now in its Sixth Edition, with over four million copies sold, and it is being used in more than 5,000 hospitals, nursing homes, faith communities and hospice programs nationwide. His second book, Light in the Shadows: Meditations While Living with a Life-Threatening Illness, is a collection of reflections on the emotional and spiritual concerns at the end of life.

Dementia advanced directives: End of Life Choices New York; https://endoflifechoicesny.org/directives/dementia-directive/

How to find Hank:

Website: www.hankdunn.com

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hank.dunn.9

Instagram: @hospicechaplainhank  https://www.instagram.com/hospicechaplainhank/

YouTube: @hankdunn6304  https://www.youtube.com/@hankdunn6304

Email:  [email protected]

You can reach Penny and Halley at [email protected], on all places you find podcasts are found. A video option can be found on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@DeathHappensInsiders

Hospice Nurse Penny on the socials: @HospiceNursePenny

Halley on the socials: @HospiceHalley

Our intro music was composed by Jamie Hill http://misfitstars.com/

Thanks for joining Hospice Nurse Penny and Halley (Hospice Social Worker) on the journey to #NormalizeDeath!

Our guest is David Ferrugio, creator and host of the wildly successful Dead Talks Podcast. DEAD Talks David Ferrugio engages death a little bit differently. Each new guest shares their experience in a way that shatters the “don’t talk about death” taboo. It’s more than a Grief Podcast; it’s a conversation about life. Having lost his father on 9/11 when he was 12, David learned the importance of discussion and sharing other people’s stories. Grief, loss, death can all start with a dialogue and his mission is to help people that have lost, that are grieving and those that haven’t faced death yet, through the words of his guests. 

The website is: https://www.deadtalks.net/about

The podcast Dead Talks is on all podcast platforms

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB_jnuH15XMk2Vx_7_-aIAw 

TikTok: @deadtalkspodcast

Instagram: @deadtalkspodcast

You can reach Penny and Halley at [email protected], on all places you find podcasts are found. A video option can be found on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@DeathHappensInsiders

Hospice Nurse Penny on the socials: @HospiceNursePenny

Halley on the socials: @HospiceHalley

Penny and Halley talk with Tiana Joy, licensed massage therapist, who shares her journey into massage therapy and hospice care, highlighting the importance of compassionate touch and emotional connections with patients. She discusses her experiences in a children’s hospital, the role of massage and aromatherapy in enhancing patient comfort, and the significance of understanding individual patient stories. Tiana also touches on her use of Reiki and energy work, emphasizing the holistic approach to care in hospice settings. Through personal anecdotes and success stories, she illustrates the profound impact of her work on both patients and their families. In this conversation, Tiana Joy discusses the use of essential oils and aromatherapy in hospice care, emphasizing their role in symptom management, emotional support, and patient empowerment. She shares practical tips for using oils for nausea and other symptoms, highlights the importance of self-care for caregivers, and encourages early intervention in hospice settings. Tiana also reflects on her personal views about death and the afterlife, advocating for a natural return to the earth.

 Tiana Joy, a professional massage therapist since 1996, has worked in End of Life care since 2013 as a CNA and LMP. She helps improve the quality of life for individuals during their final days by using her bodywork expertise, incorporating herbs and aromatherapy into personalized sessions. Her approach provides relief and support during challenging times, aiming to enhance comfort and peace. Passionate about aiding others in living their best possible days, Tiana enjoys nature and relaxation in her free time.

Thanks for joining Hospice Nurse Penny and Halley (Hospice Social Worker) on the journey to #NormalizeDeath!

The website is: *under construction!

Instagram/Facebook: TBD

Thanks for joining Hospice Nurse Penny and Halley (Hospice Social Worker) on the journey to #NormalizeDeath! You can reach us at [email protected], on all places you find podcasts are found. 

Hospice Nurse Penny on the socials: @HospiceNursePenny

Halley on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook: @HospiceHalley

Our intro music was composed by Jamie Hill http://misfitstars.com/

Welcome! Thanks for joining Hospice Nurse Penny and Halley (Hospice Social Worker) on the journey to #NormalizeDeath! 

Our guest is Em aka That Spitfire Nurse. She is an onco-palliative nurse and content creator based out of Houston, TX! She has been a nurse for 6 years now mostly in oncology, but has always had a heart for palliative care and is happy to have found a role that allows her to combine her passion for both! Em enjoys combining entertainment and education on TikTok and Instagram to help end the stigma surrounding palliative care in the oncology setting and teach patients and providers alike that palliative care is something to be embraced rather than feared.  “I love what I do and I do what I love–simple as that!”

Instagram: @thatspitfirenurseem

TikTok: @emjaymie

Thanks for joining Hospice Nurse Penny and Halley (Hospice Social Worker) on the journey to #NormalizeDeath! You can reach us at [email protected], on all places you find podcasts are found. A video option can be found on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@DeathHappensInsiders

Hospice Nurse Penny on the socials: @HospiceNursePenny

Halley on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook: @HospiceHalley

Our intro music was composed by Jamie Hill http://misfitstars.com/

Season 2, Episode 8: Disease progression and self harm judgement

Today’s episode is a deeper dive with just Penny and Halley to discuss diseases that may be considered to have a self harm origin, along with their progression and treatment. 

Thanks for joining Hospice Nurse Penny and Halley (Hospice Social Worker) on the journey to #NormalizeDeath!

You can reach us at [email protected] , on all places you find podcasts are found. A video option can be found on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@DeathHappensInsiders

Order Penny’s book: Influencing Death: Reframing Dying for Better Living on Tertulia, Amazon, Bookshop.org, and Barnes & Noble. Audio available as well!

Hospice Nurse Penny on the socials: @HospiceNursePenny

Halley on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook: @HospiceHalley

Our intro music was composed by Jamie Hill (misfitstars.com)

Thanks for joining Hospice Nurse Penny and Halley (Hospice Social Worker) on the journey to #NormalizeDeath!

Our guest is Lisa Yeager. Lisa earned her B.A. in Psychology from the University of Virginia, Masters in Social Work from San Jose State University and her Certificate in Psychedelic Therapies and Research from the California Institute of Integral Studies. She received her training in Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy from Dr. Phil Wolfson and training in Psilocybin Assisted Therapy at Synthesis Retreat Center in Amsterdam. She has completed parts 1 & 2 of the MAPS MDMA therapist training program. Special areas of focus: hospice, palliative care, death doula support, grief counseling, depression, anxiety and mindfulness practices, with spiritual practices in Tibetan Buddhism and Lakota tradition. Lisa is a member of the Nansemond Indian Nation of Virginia. When not working, Lisa is likely spending time in nature with her two dogs.  

The website is: https://www.bellinghamketamineclinic.com/ 

Instagram/Facebook: TBD

Thanks for joining Hospice Nurse Penny and Halley (Hospice Social Worker) on the journey to #NormalizeDeath! You can reach us at [email protected], on all places you find podcasts are found. A video option can be found on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@DeathHappensInsiders

Hospice Nurse Penny on the socials: @HospiceNursePenny

Halley on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook: @HospiceHalley

Our intro music was composed by Jamie Hill http://misfitstars.com/

Thanks for joining Hospice Nurse Penny and Halley (Hospice Social Worker) on the journey to #NormalizeDeath!

Our guest is attorney Andrew Schuh. Andrew earned a bachelor’s degree from the University of Southern California in 1993. He went on to earn his Juris Doctorate from the University of Arizona in 1996. He currently lives in Mount Vernon, WA after having practiced law in Southern California for 20 years. His law practice covers the State of Washington and he continues to handle matters in California. He is admitted to practice in Washington State, California, and the District of Columbia.

Andy started out his career at a mid-size medical malpractice defense firm in Los Angeles. Thereafter, he worked at Lewis, Brisbois, Bisgaard and Smith, one of the largest firms in the country, in their Orange County, California office. He continued to defend medical malpractice cases at that time, while broadening his practice areas to include most any type of civil litigation and estate planning. In 2005, Andy was recruited to the Legal Department of Sun Healthcare Group, Inc. located in Irvine, California, where his practice focused on issues related to elder care.

Sun was a publicly traded, diversified healthcare company with nationwide operations, over 30,000 employees and annual revenue of approximately $2 billion. Initially, Andy worked for Sun as Corporate Counsel for Litigation. In that capacity, he managed patient care litigation in a 13-state territory. After two years, Andy was promoted to Assistant General Counsel. As AGC, Andy managed all litigation nationwide for the company and its subsidiaries and also crossed over with regulatory, compliance, employment law, and human resource departments. In addition, as AGC, he was an advisor to senior management and the Board of Directors. After 9 years of service to Sun, the company was acquired by Genesis Healthcare, LLC.  At that time, Andy and his family made the decision to move back to the Pacific Northwest, specifically to Mount Vernon, to be closer to his family and the home base of the family business, Schuh Family Farms.

Through Andy’s law practice he offers legal services in estate planning, probate, litigation, healthcare, and agri-business. He is a past President of the Skagit County Bar Association, Incorporator and past Board Member of Skagit Legal Aid, and past Treasurer and Board Member of the Mount Vernon Arts Commission. He continues to be a board member of the Skagit Valley Tulip Festival, Skagit County Law Library Board of Trustees, Western Washington Agricultural Association, Mount Vernon Public Schools Foundation, and is Chancellor St. Paul’s Episcopal Church.  When he has free time, Andy enjoys spending it with his wife Bonnie and their English Bulldog Vivian, and visiting their three adult children who live in Seattle (soon to be New York , NY) and Laguna Niguel, CA.

Andrew C. Schuh, Attorney

Licensed in WA, CA, and DC

Skagit Law Group, PLLC 

Mount Vernon, WA 98273; Telephone (360) 336-1000

Thanks for joining Hospice Nurse Penny and Halley (Hospice Social Worker) on the journey to #NormalizeDeath! You can reach us at [email protected], on all places you find podcasts are found. A video option can be found on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@DeathHappensInsiders

Hospice Nurse Penny on the socials: @HospiceNursePenny

Halley on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook: @HospiceHalley

Our intro music was composed by Jamie Hill (misfitstars.com)

Thanks for joining Hospice Nurse Penny and Halley (Hospice Social Worker) on the journey to #NormalizeDeath!

Our guest is Susie Singer Carter. Susie is a multi-award-winning filmmaker, writer, director, producer, actor, podcast producer, host, and Caregiver Advocate. She is best known for writing, directing, and producing the 2018 Oscar Qualified short film, My Mom and The Girl starring Valerie Harper in her final performance, writing and producing “Bratz the Movie” for Lionsgate, and co-producing “Soul Surfer” for Sony. Susie also produces and hosts the podcast Love Conquers Alz – awarded BEST PODCAST 2020 by New Media Film Festival and is #4 on Feedspots’ 2022 25 Best Alzheimer’s Podcasts list. Susie is also the co-creator, co-writer, co-star, and director of the outrageous horror/comedy narrative podcast I Love Lucifer, nominated Best Audio Fiction 2023 by Indie Series Awards. Susie wrote the screenplay, “RUN”, based on the book “Plain Jane” and is attached to direct in spring 2024. She is currently    producing a documentary, No Country For Old People, which centers on the Nursing Home Neglect and the systemic healthcare crisis responsible for it. Susie is a sought-after speaker and has appeared in several Alzheimer’s awareness campaigns for Alzheimer’s Los Angeles. She proudly emceed the 2022 San Fernando Valley Alzheimer’s Walk holding up a purple flower for her mother who passed away in July 2022. She also hosts the Writers Guild of America West’s 3rd and Fairfax Podcast.

CURRENT FOCUS:

NO COUNTRY FOR OLD PEOPLE a Documentary: No Country for Old People is an amazing sorely-needed, long-awaited scorching documentary that should set the Long-Term Care Community, all Family Caregivers, Policy Makers, and the country ablaze. While chronicling the last 6 months of her mother’s life in a 5-star nursing home, a filmmaker captures proof that our Nursing Home system is broken. The system designed to protect our most vulnerable, has been flouted by venture capitalists and real estate investment trusts. Greed has caused millions of people insufferable consequences and even death and has done for decades, yet most people have no idea until it’s too late. No Country for Old People is a cautionary tale and a rally for change. I have partnered with former US Prosecutor and Attorney General, Rick Mountcastle (portrayed in the Hulu miniseries, “DOPESICK”), who spent years investigating and prosecuting nursing homes chains for fraud.  She has also attracted an impressive list of the most respected and staunch advocates to contribute to the film. The film is fiscally sponsored by The National Consumer Voice for Quality Long Term Care which provides them a 501(c)(3) status.

The podcast Love Conquers ALZ is available on all podcast platforms

TikTok and IG: @SusieSingerCarter 

Thanks for joining Hospice Nurse Penny and Halley (Hospice Social Worker) on the journey to #NormalizeDeath! You can reach us at [email protected], on all places you find podcasts are found. A video option can be found on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@DeathHappensInsiders

Hospice Nurse Penny on the socials: @HospiceNursePenny

Halley on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook: @HospiceHalley

Our intro music was composed by Jamie Hill (misfitstars.com)

Today’s episode is a deeper dive into deathbed phenomenon with just Penny and Halley.

Thanks for joining Hospice Nurse Penny and Halley (Hospice Social Worker) on the journey to #NormalizeDeath!

You can reach us at [email protected], on all places you find podcasts are found. A video option can be found on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@DeathHappensInsiders

Order Penny’s book: Influencing Death: Reframing Dying for Better Living on Tertulia, Amazon, Bookshop.org, and Barnes & Noble. Audio available as well!

Hospice Nurse Penny on the socials: @HospiceNursePenny

Halley on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook: @HospiceHalley

Our intro music was composed by Jamie Hill (misfitstars.com)