Lovely conversation with Jackie and Klaas Castelein on our podcast series, “Debunking Notions, Reshaping Mindsets”. We explored interracial relationships and marriage and how the couple navigates through the shocking variety of dangerous stereotypes from both the Dutch and Ugandan sides. Many African girls are fascinated by the idea of marrying white men as a way to elevate to a better financial life and a brighter future. Many White men are also fascinated by African girls for their black beauty and both tend to fall in. Unfortunately, the reality after the glamour of the wedding is different. Jackie shares her narrative on integration into the Dutch culture from Uganda as Klass explores his take on being accepted as a person, more than a wallet, into the Ugandan culture and family. And more……“Debunking Notions” creates a platform where stereotypes and Notions about Africa and Europe can be addressed and debunked as a way to create a platform for equal partnerships and collaborations.