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Decentralizing AI with Jesse & Dustin
By Jesse Posner, Dustin DannenhauerTechnology
Decentralizing AI with Jesse & Dustin episodes
- Intros, World Models, the End of Apps, and the Paramount Importance of User-Aligned AI
Timestamps:
0:00 Podcast origins and the AI moment
3:11 Dustin’s background: AI research, bitcoin, Nostr, and decentralization
11:20 Jesse’s background: from philosophy and law to bitcoin security
17:18 Dustin’s startup (Delegance) vision and world models explained through chess
25:45 Determinism: why AI works better with structure and clear rules
34:05 Reflecting on process: how to debug better, waste fewer tokens, and improve workflow
50:50 The end of apps and the rise of personal AI interfaces
1:06:48 The stakes of AI that serves the individual
Delegance co-founder Dustin Dannenhauer and Vora co-founder Jesse Posner kick off the Decentralizing AI podcast by introducing their backgrounds and exploring some of the ideas that will shape the show, including: AI, bitcoin, decentralization, world models, the future of software, and importance of AI serving the individual rather than the interests of platforms, governments, or other institutions.
🌐Learn more about Delegance at delegance.ai
🌐Learn more about Vora at vora.io
1 hr 12 min
About Decentralizing AI with Jesse & Dustin
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Digging into the ideas shaping the next era of AI, and how they intersect with decentralization, self-sovereignty, and empowerment of the individual.
Each episode, Jesse Posner and Dustin Dannenhauer, PhD explore the frontier of AI with topics such as open-source vs. proprietary models, world models vs. LLMs, autonomous agents, AI self-custody, vibe coding, bitcoin, Nostr, consciousness, and who actually owns the stack.
Vora co-founder Jesse focuses on AI self-custody, applying bitcoin’s self-sovereignty ethos to artificial intelligence. Dustin runs Delegance AI, a research lab focused on world models, planning, and agent orchestration. Both have spent more than a decade in AI and believe the most important AI story isn’t centralization but the quieter parallel movement using AI to accelerate decentralization and give power back to the individual.