Note: This episode was recorded as part of E3: Engage and Empower with Empathy, the original version of this podcast. It is now part of Return on Empathy (ROE)—a podcast series focused on the measurable impact of empathy in the workplace.

In this conversation, host Rebecca Dhrimaj and professor emeritus at the University of Michigan Ross School of Business, Robert E. Quinn, explore the dynamics of change and transformation in organizations and individuals. They discuss the importance of authenticity, the role of myths in understanding personal and collective journeys, and how crises can serve as catalysts for significant change. Quinn emphasizes the need for leaders to embrace purpose and positive energy to navigate through chaos and foster a culture of engagement and empowerment.

Sound Bites

• "This is a cult book."

• "What do I really value?"

Chapters

00:00 The Evolution of Deep Change

06:01 Authenticity and the Journey of Change

09:11 Understanding Myths in Change Management

24:24 Leadership Beyond Crisis

33:08 Harnessing Positive Energy for Change

34:22 Building a Culture of Care

Learn more about Robert E. Quinn and his book, Deep Change: https://robertequinn.com/

Learn more about The Empathy Collective: www.theempathycollective.com