Based upon the outpouring of requests from Security Matters listeners seeking clarification on this subject, Paul sought and received the expert counsel of Mr. John McLaughlin, former Deputy Director of Intelligence for the CIA and Mr. Michael Levy, a 37 year Department of Justice professional with the United States Attorneys Office. Their conversation will shed a beaming light of the “truth” of the Deep State” as well as the current Whistleblower process. Powerful, enlightening and entirely necessary. www.cbsaudio.com

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