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few years ago Alan Watkins noticed, while watching a news story about a global crisis, that he kept hearing about the same problems over and over again. “Why is it that these problems are intractable?” he asked himself. Thus was born Wicked and Wise: How to Solve the World’s Toughest Problems, which he co-wrote with Ken Wilber.
In Wicked, Alan and Ken use climate change as an example of a wicked problem, which they define as a situation with multiple dimensions, multiple stakeholders, multiple causes and symptoms, and which is evolving. Using the integral map they explicate its component parts and provide solutions, which is where the “wise” part of the title comes from. “Integral coherence”, or applying the integral map in a coherent fashion, is the essence of the solution.
Wicked is the beginning of a series of books applying integral wisdom to our thorniest problems. The second book, Crowdocracy, has already been published as well.
In the podcast, Jeff and Alan discuss climate change, the problems of globalization and democracy, getting CEO’s to do the right thing, and even Donald Trump! We hope you enjoy this fascinating conversation. The paperback version of Wicked and Wise is available now on Amazon.
Alan Watkins has multiple degrees and is recognized as an international expert on leadership and human performance. He’s written numerous academic papers and academic book chapters in multiple fields as well as authoring five books himself. He lives in Hampshire, England. Find out more about Alan and his work at www.complete-coherence.com.
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Gender norms have never been fixed. The emerging edge of this conversation is gender expression. When famous people transition (Chaz Bono, Caitlyn Jenner, the Wachowski siblings) we’re fascinated. Some people are just scared. States have started passing laws barring people from using the restroom that doesn’t match the gender on their birth certificates, (if there was ever a solution in search of a problem…). Some say the fight for transgender equality is the last civil rights movement.
Under the cultural milieu of the bromance (love between two straight men) and men-in-heels is the polarity of masculine and feminine, the most basic, primal typology there is. These qualities are distinct from gender, and yet rooted in them.
Dr. Keith has been working with men for decades as a psychotherapist. When he talks about masculinity, he focuses on the Warrior archetype, and beyond that, what he calls the “Man of Wisdom”. The Warrior is that part of us that is willing to put our own welfare second to our principles or our passions, he says. (It originates in a man’s primal desire to defend his family). If all goes well, the warrior eventually paves the way for the Man of Wisdom to emerge.
These archetypes are embodied at every stage of development.
In the podcast, Dr. Keith and Jeff expound on:
• The nature of masculinity, and how evolution is creating bigger categories for us to inhabit
We hope you enjoy this episode of The Shrink & The Pundit. Find more episodes here.
The Star Wars saga is a good cultural example of the archetypes Dr. Keith and Jeff talk about in this podcast. In the first movie, Star Wars Episode IV, made in 1977, we’re introduced to a young Luke Skywalker. He lives on a desert planet and complains to his mother and step dad about his chores. In the next movie we watch him answer the call to adventure, and finally in the third installment, he fully embraces the identity of the Warrior and becomes a Jedi Knight.
In the recent movie, The Force Awakens, Episode VII, released this past December, a lot of time has passed since those days, and at the end we’re briefly introduced to a man who has become a myth. He’s older and wise; a hermit on a water planet, with flowing robes and a grey beard. It’s Luke Skywalker, Man of Wisdom, who resembles the Obi Wan Kenobi (“Old Ben”) who was his mentor in the first movie.
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Activity in the Mormon church seems to be declining – particularly in the West – and Thomas McConkie is witnessing what he calls a “faith crisis.”
Many people are questioning the stories being passed down to them, especially Millennials, who are effortlessly modern or even postmodern. Gold plates with Egyptian writing on them? Lost tribes of Israel in the Americas? Where is the proof? (And what about the sexism, racism and homophobia?)
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Thomas, who was born and raised in the Mormon Church in Salt Lake City and comes from pioneer ancestors, left the church at thirteen. This was unprecedented in his family at the time – a major transgression.
When he returned to the Mormon church twenty years later, he brought an awareness of Buddhism, integral theory and adult development with him. It became clear that this faith crisis was systemic, and not just isolated to the individual. He was moved to find a way to re-integrate his Mormonism, perhaps providing a bridge for a new generation of Latter-day Saints to authentic worship.
“A faith crisis might just be a developmental shift gone unrecognized,” he tells Jeff. “I hope that we can normalize this process of falling apart and coming back together again as new beings that see and experience the world in a new way.”
The Mormon church has a strong amber (traditional) base, but developmentally, a lot of orange, modern consciousness has emerged and is looking for evidence of the religion’s supernatural claims. Is there a way of going through this stage without completely leaving your religion behind? It’s unclear. Why do some people stay and some people go?
“Someone who has more of an atheistic bent, how can we honor their Mormonism?” Thomas asks. “What does a ‘strategist’ or a teal Mormonism look like? Someone who’s into turquoise, indigo and beyond, what is that experience – to relate to this tradition from those levels?”
Some of the things Thomas and Jeff discuss include:
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he ability to remember the past and to imagine the future sets us apart from other animals. A zebra doesn’t worry about the lion until the lion is upon it, at which time it reacts. If it escapes it will shake for hours afterwards to release the trauma, and then it’s free. But humans have the special ability to imagine that lion attacking over and over again. It must give us some kind of evolutionary advantage or else we wouldn’t have developed this ability. Anxiety is part of the price we pay for our imaginations, and a self-aware consciousness.
This subject is close to Jeff’s heart. He describes a four-year period in which he suffered debilitating anxiety as “a black hole of self-focused rumination”. He tells Dr. Keith about the medications, the treatments, screaming his head off, and what finally drew him out of that terrible place.
Chögyam Trungpa used to say that anxiety is just the feeling of being a separate self. Research has shown that when we’re connected to each other our anxiety goes way down. Other things that help are assertive action and deep relaxation.
Regardless, all emotions have relevance to our lives and we want to act on them in a healthy, functional way. We can begin by looking at anxiety itself with compassion, acceptance and caring intent.
Some of the things that Jeff and Dr. Keith talk about in the podcast:
• The different types of anxiety disorders and especially the difference between anxiety, fear, and panic
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Looking at the current political climate in America, Steve writes, “Polarization now extends far beyond the uncompromising logjam in the legislature. Numerous studies have shown that much of the American public is afflicted by ‘affective polarization’ wherein opposing political camps increasingly dislike, and even loathe, their opponents.”
The American political landscape is a big polar contest between the political left and right, and inside these polarities exist other, more refined polarities with values that tug and pull at each other—a “dialectic fractal”. Realizing that these naturally-occurring polarities exist, and that they’re meant to be there, can make the whole system friendlier and open up space for greater cooperation.
The ideas that Jeff and Steve explore in the podcast include:
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Einstein’s general theory of relativity got its final proof this month as scientists detected the bending of space and time that he predicted one hundred years ago.
The world that Einstein showed us is so much stranger than what we could have imagined. It blew up our safe perceptions about time and space and light and gravity. But the mechanistic universe we inhabited until then wasn’t wrong, it was just partial. General relativity includes and transcends Newtonian physics.
So what effect does a four-dimensional reality, one that is interpenetrated with time, have on our view of the world? Is everything that has ever happened still reverberating in this very moment? Jeff looks at general relativity through the lens of integral theory and considers the implications.
In the second segment Jeff is joined live in the studio by Steve McIntosh, integral author and president of the non-profit Institute for Cultural Evolution (ICE). It’s a perfect time to discuss Steve’s new paper “Overcoming Polarization by Evolving Both Right and Left: How Polarity Theory Provides a Path to Political Progress”.
Within a hour of the announcement of the death of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia last week, the Republican leadership announced they would not even consider a nominee put up by President Obama to replace the conservative icon. This is an illustration of just how divided and dysfunctional our political process has become. Is it any wonder that the two “revolution” candidates, Trump and Sanders, the ones that want to blow up the system, are surging in the polls?
Steve and Jeff talk about progressive and conservative as indestructible polarities that need each other to grow and become better – like the poles of masculine and feminine—they’ll never merge, but they do change over time, taking on the best aspects of each other. So how do we help the left and the right evolve on their own terms? Listen to the podcast, and for those that want a deeper dive, you can find Steve’s new paper here.
Lastly, Jeff takes a question from a listener, Marilyn, who lives in Canada and works in Oklahoma, and is wondering if she’s taking her life in her hands every time she has a layover in Dallas.
…I find the apparent strengthening of the gun lobby, very, very troubling. I am looking for an integrally informed point of view…and some hope. Thanks for any insights you can offer on this particularly American dilemma of the Second Amendment.
Why are we so different in this regard to every other advanced Western nation, including our gentle neighbors to the north? Jeff explains the American psychograph to Marilyn, and why guns are still such an important part of our identity.
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With Donald Trump currently leading the Republican presidential field, the race is finally getting interesting. Few people think he will ultimately prevail, but Trump can absolutely affect the outcome — and not in the Republican’s favor. By alienating young and minority voters he exacerbates the party’s demographic decline, and if he mounts a third party candidacy it would virtually ensure a Democratic victory in November. (Which may be fine with him, as he has supported many liberal causes in the past including Hillary Clinton’s senate campaign.)
What makes this eccentric, egocentric billionaire so popular among Republicans, the very people whose interests he threatens? Simple: he’s strong, he’s capricious, he shows no fear and has little respect for the rules of the game that so many see as rigged against them. He’s vainglorious, thin-skinned, surrounded by beautiful women and apparently willing to offend anyone and say anything, whether he believes it or not.
In integral terms he’s “red meme”, operating from the warrior stage of development that still lives in the belly of our collective beast. As such Trump is a tonic for the poll-driven drivel that most professional politicians deal in.
In this short audio I share some thoughts on what integral theory can tell us about the cultural — and now political — phenomena of Donald Trump.
There are good reasons why, traditionally, politics and religion are not discussed in polite company. “It’s because they express very deep patterns of our thinking and feeling,” Jeff says, “if you start screwing with my spiritual beliefs and my politics, you’re screwing with me and my whole sense of identity.”
In the podcast, Jeff talks about what he calls “integral political practice,” the act of observing our attractions and aversions to different political ideas and even to particular candidates. In so doing we are engaging in the most potent practice of consciousness evolution: turning subject into object. He describes what he calls “the remote control test”, which is noticing his instant compulsion to change the channel when Ted Cruz appears on the TV.
What exactly is happening there, and more importantly, what’s underneath it? Jeff plumbs the depths of his revulsion and finds some surprising truths!
Also in the podcast Jeff talks to author Thomas McConkie about his new book, Navigating Mormon Faith Crisis. Tom was born and raised in the Mormon Church in Salt Lake City and comes from pioneer ancestry. He describes his own crisis of faith and the falling out with his family. “That set me on my path in Buddhism and eventually integral adult development. It was just in the last few years that it felt like a deep soul urge of mine to really, on a personal level, integrate my own Mormon identity.”
If you think you know about Mormonism, you might be really surprised by Jeff’s conversation with Tom. Find out more about Tom’s work and Navigating Mormon Faith Crisis here.
Lastly, Jeff addresses a listener’s frustration with the Big History Project, which seems to be trying to answer a lot of the same questions as integral theory, but with much less explanatory power. So why is it so successful in spreading its message to the public?
“I’m a little frustrated about the inability of integral theory…to penetrate public discourse in a similar way,” the caller says. So are we! In the podcast, Jeff talks about the strengths of the Big History Project, it’s shortcomings, and why, for the time being, books on integral theory are still relegated to the New Age ghetto.
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In a healthy intimate relationship, the partners don’t have to be turned on by each other all the time, says Dr. Keith, “but they do need to be turned on by each other regularly.” Every couple has a balance of how much sex is needed to keep things vibrant, and it’s the responsibility of each partner to make it happen.
For many couples, this is something that must be learned and practiced.
In the days of our grandparents there wasn’t much need for sex therapy. Sexual fulfillment was not an expectation for a traditional marriage. The dawn of modernity (orange) brought with it a value structure that focused more on the individual. With changing morals and the advent of birth control, the focus of sex became less about procreation and more about pleasure. Our personal sexual fulfillment took priority over social convention, and divorce began to skyrocket.
With the dawn of the postmodern age, couples are faced with additional challenges. The main challenge is how to keep the erotic energy alive when partners are focused on minimizing male/female differences and elevating equality. “These couples need to practice taking and being taken,” says Dr. Keith, “where one person’s masculine really focuses on the other person’s feminine. One person leads the other person—and the other person allows themselves to be led—into the dance of eroticism.”
In some relationships, such as with many gay couples, the roles of masculine and feminine can even be exchanged.
Some of the main topics that Jeff and Dr. Keith discuss in the podcast:
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This is part two of a two-part series. Find part one here.
As we see with integral theory, art is often the leading edge of cultural and consciousness evolution, and jazz today continues to lead the way. In this two-part series, “The soul of jazz”, Greg takes us through the history of jazz from its roots in the magic, mythic and traditional interiors of African Americans at the turn of the last century, through the modern and postmodern strains of the mid and late 20th Century, to the more wild wooly contemporary scene. He points out the evolutionarily potent and ultimately integral qualities jazz conveys as it confronts enduring human polarities such as the individual vs the group, tragedy vs comedy, competition vs cooperation, and structure vs freedom.
Greg Thomas is one of the nation’s leading experts on jazz. For several years Greg was a jazz columnist for the New York Daily News. He’s a consultant with the National Jazz Museum in Harlem and with Jazz at Lincoln Center, the largest organization in the world dedicated to the preservation and perpetuation of jazz.
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