In episode eleven of Football Firsts, Troy and Jermain discuss the first time they played with or against genius, and what it's like to play alongside the very best.

First up, the pair ask what makes a genius and throw out some names of players they think are special. Jermain talks about playing with Paolo Di Canio and Luka Modric, and against Kaka and Clarence Seedorf. They talk about what makes a footballing genius, why Steven Gerrard and Alan Shearer are so good, and why Dimitar Berbatov carries his own plastic cutlery!

And they discuss which players they would pay money to see in the Premier League today.