In this deeply personal and joy-filled episode, Jennifer sits down with one of the most meaningful people in her life — Dr. Marlene Kalouyan, the brilliant OB-GYN who delivered her daughter Charlotte and became so much more than a doctor: a true friend, confidante, and soul sister.

From the delivery room to years of friendship, Jennifer and Marlene unpack everything — motherhood, teaching, chasing joy beyond career titles, and rediscovering purpose in unexpected ways. Marlene opens up about her early journey from Nigeria, her unexpected start as a math teacher, and how she’s now embracing new passions in her medical career, including cosmetic gynecology.

But the heart of this episode lies in vulnerability — as Jennifer shares her emotional struggles with fertility and motherhood, and Marlene reflects on her own experiences with compassion, honesty, and wisdom. Together, they remind listeners that healing and growth often happen through connection and shared understanding.

Of course, it wouldn’t be Unpacking with Jennifer without laughter — from “front butt” anatomy lessons to kids’ sass, tacos, grilled cheese debates, and the never-ending chaos of fourth-grade homework, this conversation swings from raw to ridiculous in the most beautiful way.

If you’ve ever had a friend who walked beside you through life’s hardest and happiest moments — this one’s for you.

Follow along on Instagram, TikTok & Facebook @jennifer_satel, and check out Dr. Marlene Kalouyan’s info and links in the episode notes.

Dr. Marlene Kalouyan's Instagram: @drmarlenekalouyan

Podcast Production Company: Command Creative Studios

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