This week on Unpacking with Jennifer, Jennifer is joined by her close friend Judy Kogan for a heartfelt, hilarious, and deeply relatable conversation about friendship, family life, and the long journey of letting go.
Jennifer and Judy share how they first met through a local mom Facebook group, bonded over daughters born just days apart, and tackled one of the most iconic projects in Unpacking history — Judy’s garage. What started as total chaos turned into a full transformation that involved selling items, clearing decades of paperwork, conquering mystery cords, and finally making space for real life (and cars).
They unpack what it’s really like to declutter during overwhelming seasons, raise kids who grow up way too fast, navigate allowances, chores, and parenting philosophies, and face the emotional weight of keepsakes, paperwork, and “just in case” items. Judy opens up about her mindset shift — asking herself whether something would matter on her deathbed or burden her children — and how that perspective changed everything.
This episode is packed with laugh-out-loud moments, honest reflections, and powerful reminders that organization isn’t about perfection — it’s about evolution, trust, and creating space for the life you’re actually living.
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