In this episode, I share the story of my extraordinary almost 40-year friendship with Jolene, two women who found themselves on opposite sides of the political spectrum during Trump's re-election in 2024. I open up about my journey as a Democrat, while my dear friend Jolene brings her Republican perspective to our conversation, showing how we've managed to maintain respect and understanding during one of America's most polarizing moments.

I take you through my raw emotional journey - from my initial frustration on election night to my eventual realization that this was a call to action for Democrats like me. Meanwhile, Jolene shares her pragmatic approach to voting Republican, leading us into deeper discussions about Trump's popular vote win and America's clear desire for change. 

Through our conversation, we demonstrate how maintaining genuine friendships across political divides isn't just possible - it's essential in our increasingly polarized nation. This isn't just our story; it's a blueprint for having those difficult but necessary conversations in today's divided America.

00:00 Introduction

04:52 Having conversations about American politics with respect

07:05 How to discuss differing political views

14:19 Trump re-election reflections and a surprise win

22:47 Local Politics and Personal Choices