Mixed Up

Denise Devenish on the importance of cultural competency for therapists and how the practice works when you’re interrogating identity


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Emma and Nicole speak with mixed British-Japanese artist and counsellor, Denise Devenish. She works primarily with musicians and creatives having grown up in a family steeped in the music industry. 

She is the daughter of Kishi Yamamoto and Adrian Sherwood of On-U Sound fame and was surrounded by around iconic artists including Lee Scratch Perry, Ari Up and Bim Sherman.


We discuss how psychotherapy has historically been a white, middle-class practice, the importance of cultural competency within therapy, what it's like to name and explore your own experience and discomfort as a therapist and the responsibility one feels to take care of one's many cultures and heritages.


Buy our book, ⁠The Half of It: Exploring the Mixed Race Experience⁠

Emma Slade Edmondson: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/emsladedmondson/⁠

Nicole Ocran: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/nicoleocran/⁠

Mixed Up:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/mixedup.podcast⁠

Denise Devenish: https://www.instagram.com/denise.devenish/

Website: ⁠https://www.mixedup.co.uk/⁠

Substack: ⁠https://mixeduppod.substack.com/⁠

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mixedup.podcast

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