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Join Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas on "DeProgram" as they interview historian Thaddeus Russell about his new book "Savior and Seducer."

Thaddeus Russell discusses his book “Savior and Seducer,” arguing that U.S. foreign policy has long been driven by a sincere “savior complex”—a Christian-evangelical mission to uplift and Americanize the world—rather than primarily by greed or capitalism.

He contrasts this hard-power imperialism with the more effective soft-power “seducer” of American popular culture, which foreign governments have repeatedly tried to suppress. The conversation covers historical examples from the founders through the Civil War, Reconstruction, the Philippines, and into the Trump era, which Russell sees as a non-moralistic reorganization of empire focused on the Western Hemisphere.

Tune in for unfiltered discussion that cuts through mainstream myths and prepares listeners for the full conversation. Live weekdays at 9 AM ET, streaming anytime.

00:00 Introducing Thaddeus Russell and Savior and Seducer

01:41 The Savior and Seducer Thesis of American Power0

3:57 Why U.S. Leaders Truly Believe in Saving the World

09:04 How American Pop Culture Seduced the World

14:38 Debating Motives: Ideology or Resources?

25:21 Founders, Abolitionists, and the Civil War as Empire

44:08 The Christian Roots of American Imperial Psychology

55:17 Trump’s Reorganization of the American Empire

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• France’s “Doom Loop”: Populist protests explode across France as investors dump bonds and borrowing costs surge. President Emmanuel Macron faces a brutal trap: spend to calm the streets and risk market panic, or do nothing and fuel political chaos ahead of next year’s election.⁠ America carries heavy debt too, but its reserve-currency power and AI-driven growth help it sidestep immediate danger—for now.

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Today we also discuss:

• Ohio Governor’s Race: Vivek Ramaswamy’s attack ad featuring Amy Acton’s estranged mother calling her a liar over childhood abuse claims backfires hard. Prediction markets send Acton’s odds of winning the Ohio governorship to all-time highs amid widespread backlash.

• Kohen Wiley Video: New video surfaces in the Mississippi police shooting that killed 1-year-old Kohen Wiley outside a Walmart. The attorney general calls the officer’s force “justified” after the car allegedly threatened officers, but provides no details, while the family demands full footage release.⁠ Is it time to ban cops shooting into cars?

• Russia Releases American: Russia frees 74-year-old American Stephen Hubbard, detained as a mercenary for Ukraine since 2022, as Trump envoy Steve Witkoff meets Putin in St. Petersburg. The release gives Trump a win while he presses Ukraine toward a deal.⁠

00:00 France's Doom Loop and Today's Headlines

01:40 Russia Releases Detained American Stephen Hubbard

04:21 Jamarl's Combative Appearance on Scotty's Show

11:24 Vivek Ramaswamy's Controversial Ohio Campaign Ad

41:15 French Protests, Austerity, and the Doom Loop

1:09 Witkoff Meets Putin on Ukraine and NATO

1:52 Mississippi Police Shooting of Infant Cohen Wiley

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• Join Ted and Jamarl for a timely conversation with Prof. Gideon Rahat, leading expert on the Israeli election system. With Israel’s elections days away, Rahat—political scientist at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and a senior fellow at the Israel Democracy Institute—brings deep knowledge of how the country’s electoral rules, party dynamics, and voting mechanics actually function. Rahat’s expertise offers a clear look at the mechanics of one of the world’s most closely watched contests.

Prof. Gideon Rahat is a political scientist at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and a senior fellow at the Israel Democracy Institute.⁠ He specializes in electoral systems, political reform, parties, candidate selection, and the personalization of politics. He co-edits The Elections in Israel series and co-edited The Oxford Handbook of Israeli Politics and Society. Key books include Democracy Within Parties (with Reuven Hazan) and The Politics of Regime Structure Reform in Democracies.⁠ Rahat is a leading expert on Israel’s proportional, nationwide closed-list system and the politics of reforming it.

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• The Justice Department charges 28 green-card holders in California with voting crimes and races to block the state from counting ballots of alleged noncitizens, intensifying a clash over election integrity.⁠

• ICE detains a U.S. citizen in Long Beach; officers find him bleeding and handcuffed after ICE deliberately ran over him and his bike, then rush him to the hospital as his family says agents tased and pinned him.⁠

• Saudi Arabia cancels its flagship 2026 “Davos in the Desert” investment summit and shifts it to 2027 as Houthi strikes hammer the kingdom and force Riyadh officials to work from home.⁠

00:00 Meet Professor Gideon Rahat, Expert on Israeli Elections

01:39 How Israel Chooses Its Prime Minister Through Coalitions

04:43 Why the Israeli Ballot Looks Nothing Like America's

07:04 Does Trump's Endorsement of Netanyahu Actually Matter?

09:45 Gadi Eisenkot and the Parties Challenging Likud

13:13 The Issues That Could Decide Israel's Election

24:59 Will Netanyahu Escalate With Iran to Sway Voters?

33:40 Hosts Discuss Trump, Saudi Blockade, ICE, and Voting Charges

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• France erupts in its biggest riots in years as education and living-cost protests explode into deadly chaos. Hooded rioters torch buildings and loot hundreds of shops while police blast tear gas; over 2,000 face arrest amid two deaths. President Macron vows accountability as unrest threatens to ignite Europe. Meanwhile, America’s “No Kings” rallies are subdued and hyperlocal, zeroing in on early voting, yet many Democratic candidates skip them.

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• Israeli police arrest 10 suspects after masked settlers brutalize a Washington Post photojournalist and European diplomats during West Bank olive-harvest attacks. Levine suffers broken bones; international outrage mounts as violence surges ahead of Israel’s election. Trump delivers an unprecedented public endorsement of Netanyahu just nine days before Israel’s election, praising him as a “Great Warrior” and essential partner against Iran. Polls show Netanyahu’s coalition struggling. Is this election interference?

• Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov visits Tehran after Gulf states ask Moscow to use its influence at the UN to press Iran to halt attacks on regional neighbors.

• Putin proposes a November summit with Trump and Xi to forge a Ukraine War deal, excluding Zelensky. The idea, floated in an Oct. 9 call that also sealed a Russian diesel deal, alarms Kyiv and Europe amid warming Trump-Putin ties.

• Trump’s WaPo approval poll crashes to a record-low 33%, with 66% disapproving, as a new poll hands Democrats a clear midterm edge two weeks from Election Day. Inflation and an angry voter mood fuel the GOP’s bleak outlook.

00:00:00 Opening and Today’s Key Stories

00:02:18 Why France Is Rioting While "No Kings" Stays Quiet

00:42:11 Trump’s Record-Low Polls and the Midterm Outlook

01:01:09 Putin’s Summit Idea with Trump and Xi on Ukraine

01:01:37 Lavrov in Tehran and the Gulf States’ Iran Request

01:01:44 West Bank Settlers Attack Journalist and Diplomats

01:11:50 Israeli Election Mechanics and Closing Thoughts

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• ICE agents ram their unmarked SUV into a fleeing Houston construction worker, shattering his leg in a pursuit of an alleged fugitive. As local police consider criminal charges against ICE and accuse ICE of lying and destroying evidence, the face plastered on their “wanted bulletin” belongs to a ghost: a man who plunged to his death from a Mexican border cliff in 2017 while evading immigration agents, leaving his family horrified.

Editorial cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM Eastern time.

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• Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney warns that the US is trying to break Canada so it can “own us,” as oil-rich Alberta holds a non-binding referendum on Monday that could start the legal process toward a future separation vote.⁠ The vote asks whether Alberta should remain a province or instruct its government to begin constitutional steps for a later binding referendum on leaving Canada.

• Teen shooter kills 3 children and a teacher at Bend, Oregon elementary school before a bystander kills him.

• White House officials ordered the Pentagon to limit Ukraine’s Starshield satellite service for drone operations, Reuters reports, though Trump did not personally direct it. Trump separately called Zelenskyy’s strikes on Russian oil facilities a “disgrace” for raising global prices. Connectivity has largely been restored.

• A Dublin hotel canceled 70 rooms for a Special Envoys and Coordinators Combating Antisemitism (SECCA) conference on combating antisemitism after learning the event’s purpose, according to an Irish Jewish leader.

• The DOJ is investigating claims that Rep. Ilhan Omar or her late father misstated her birth date on immigration paperwork so she could derive U.S. citizenship as a minor when he naturalized in 2000. Conflicting records list her birth year as 1981 or 1982; the probe could seek denaturalization. In May 2019, months after entering Congress, Ilhan Omar’s staff asked the Minnesota Legislative Reference Library to change her listed birth year from 1981 to 1982. Is this a wedge test for Democrats?

00:00 Show Intro and Today's Stories

03:29 Starlink Shutdown and Trump's Knowledge

16:35 Bend Oregon School Shooting Ritual

31:47 Ilhan Omar Birthdate Probe

43:37 Houston ICE Chase and Wrong Suspect

50:58 Dublin Hotel Blocks Anti-Semitism Conference

56:28 Mark Carney Warns on Alberta Independence

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Zelensky says Ukraine will resume Russian refinery strikes, defying Trump. Kyiv’s anger boils over following sudden Starlink throttling and continued Russian attacks. Kyiv suspects deliberate pressure from Musk or the White House after Zelensky criticizes U.S. policy. Partial service returns, yet suspicions linger amid denied early warnings of Russian strikes.

Conflict reporter/writer/cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM ET.

Today we also discuss:

• Republicans pin their fading 2026 midterm hopes on another historic polling miss. While conceding a grim national environment, they point to past cycles—2022, 2024, and 2016—where forecasts underestimated GOP strength.

• Harris County DA Sean Teare says videos show an ICE officer intentionally struck and ran over Miguel Parra Hernandez during a stop, potentially constituting aggravated assault. Local investigators allege federal non-cooperation and possible erasure of crash data after the vehicle was driven away. ICE denies and deflects, as Parra faces multiple surgeries.

• Iranian strikes send two vessels to the bottom of the Strait of Hormuz during one of the waterway’s most violent months since the war began. A Singapore-registered container ship, the GFS Pride, catches fire after being hit; its crew evacuates safely.

• Federal agents seize Rep. Ilhan Omar’s phone and issue more than a dozen grand jury subpoenas, including to relatives, in a probe into possible immigration fraud.

01:31 Ilhan Omar Investigation and Midterm Timing

03:51 Montana Politics and Aaron Flint Race

05:19 Texas Senate Race and James Talarico

08:09 Republican Midterm Polling Hopes

11:00 Fuel Prices, Economic Pain, and Trump’s Argument

18:59 Iran War Plans and Lack of Military Solution

20:15 Grassroots Anger and Argentina Beef Comments

32:17 Strait of Hormuz Control and Oil Price Spike

33:21 European Protests Versus American Individualism

38:30 Houthis, Saudi Arabia, and Oil Export Limits

40:04 Israeli Elections and Netanyahu’s Position

46:31 Ilhan Omar Lawfare and Political Targeting

50:55 Trump Decision-Making and Briefing Gaps

56:03 Ukraine-U.S. Rift and Starlink Throttling

01:10:33 Closing and Upcoming Shows

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Trump privately debates scrapping plans to livestream the firing squad execution of Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hasan after learning the paralyzed gunman relies on a wheelchair. Why didn’t he know? Advisers warn that the grim public images could martyr the terrorist or embolden enemies, even as Trump remains firmly committed to carrying out the death sentence itself.

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• Cornell University suspends fraternity parties for the rest of the academic year amid explosive backlash over a 2024 gang rape allegation. President Michael Kotlikoff vows zero tolerance as the Ivy League school scrambles to overhaul its response after local prosecutors initially declined charges.⁠ How will Ivy Leaguers socialize?

• Time to move? Scientists say that super-Earths orbiting cooler K-dwarf stars may prove more habitable than Earth itself, with thicker atmospheres, stabler climates, and stronger magnetic shields that could let complex life thrive longer and richer. Garden cress already sprouts faster under simulated K-dwarf light, hinting these distant worlds might host paradise-like biospheres.⁠

• Houthis strike an Aramco building in Dhahran hours after Saudi-led forces hit a Sanaa oil facility, igniting a dangerous spiral of threats against Riyadh airport and oil sites. Missiles and drones continue raining on the kingdom as the “Dawn of Yemen” counteroffensive escalates and airlines flee Saudi airspace.⁠

• Germany closes Nuremberg Airport and scrambles Eurofighter jets after a Corendon Airlines flight from Corfu transmits a false hijack code “7500” due to a radio malfunction. The plane lands safely under escort, operations resume, and authorities confirm no danger ever existed.⁠ Will AI cause more false alarms?

• One year after the Gaza ceasefire, residents remain trapped in tents amid rubble, daily Israeli airstrikes, and almost no reconstruction, saying the war never truly ended. Anger flares at Hamas, Israel, and the world as 65% still live in makeshift shelters.⁠

• Germany opens a high-stakes Nord Stream pipeline sabotage trial, charging a Ukrainian ex-officer as an accomplice to a war crime and alleging the plot ran “on behalf of state authorities in Ukraine.” Kyiv fiercely denies involvement while the case threatens to strain Berlin’s support for its ally.⁠

00:00 Show Intro and Episode Preview

04:30 Trump and the Wheelchair Execution Debate

22:05 Cornell Bans Frat Parties After Rape Allegation

35:10 The Viral Drunk Candidate Interview Clip

43:54 Michigan Race, Said, and Obama’s Influence

53:35 Laith Malouf on Yemen, Saudi Arabia, and Gaza

01:01:36 The Nord Stream Pipeline Sabotage Trial

01:01:52 Super-Earths and Episode Wrap-Up

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“DeProgram” invites Michael Tracey, an independent journalist and commentator known for contrarian coverage of media and sexual-assault narratives, to discuss the 2026 Cornell “Jane Doe” civil lawsuit, filed by a former student alleged she was drugged and assaulted by seven Chi Phi fraternity members on October 19, 2024. Tracey has emphasized due-process concerns, the asymmetry of naming the accused while the plaintiff remains anonymous, and reported post-incident texts in which the complainant allegedly called the encounter a “gangbang” and invoked “our body our choice.” He solicited her identity on social media, briefly posted a name he claimed to have verified, then deleted it, arguing the exercise exposed improper use of anonymity in settlement-driven suits. The move drew widespread criticism and a #IAmJaneDoe backlash.

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Today we also discuss:

• U.S. authorities raid Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar’s Washington-area home as part of an ongoing federal criminal investigation, the Justice Department says. The probe involves alleged immigration fraud tied to paperwork completed by her late father when she was a child. Omar, a leftist and vocal Trump critic, called the search political intimidation; it occurred weeks before midterm elections.

• A New York Times satellite analysis finds Israel has leveled 48 of roughly 60 villages in occupied southern Lebanon since an April “cease-fire,” primarily Shiite areas, while building infrastructure for a longer presence. Meanwhile, Saudi authorities say that operations will remain suspended at the airport in Riyadh after another Houthi attack on the facility on Sunday.

• Elon Musk has quietly given more than $276 million since July to Republican groups and his America PAC, making him by far the largest known midterm donor as he tries to protect the party’s Senate majority.⁠ That includes a $158 million gift to the Senate Leadership Fund, one of the largest political donations in U.S. history. His total this cycle already exceeds his 2024 spending.

00:00 Opening News Headlines on Cornell, Omar, Lebanon, and Musk

02:59 Debating the Cornell Student Group Ban

05:23 Why The Feds Raided Ilhan Omar's Home

09:38 Michael Tracey Explains His Cornell "Jane Doe" Reporting

25:28 Analyzing the Evidence in the Cornell Case

50:50 Hosts Discuss Tracey's Take and Consent Questions

58:49 Southern Lebanon Destruction and Breaking News

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Today we discuss:

• The firing squad execution of 2009 Fort Hood shooter Nidal Malik Hasan will be livestreamed December 3rd.

• Unidentified ICE agents using unmarked cars surrounded a Dominican man and his 5-year-old child in his car in the Marble Hill section of The Bronx and shot him multiple times.

• The Pentagon has developed plans to strike Iran’s drone and missile arsenal, energy facilities and other military sites. But Trump has repeatedly decided not to relaunch heavy combat operations against Iran. And the U.S. military response to Iran has been more muted in recent weeks. Several explosions were heard in the Saudi capital, including one at the Riyadh airport. A recent Congressional Research Service report shows that at least 81 U.S. military aircraft, drones, and helicopters were lost or damaged during the war with Iran—Senator Chris Murphy calls it a cover-up.

• The Trump Administration suspended major tech companies, including Microsoft and Adobe, as well as IT outsourcing firms from a green card program. J.D. Vance said that the companies had “abused” H-1B visa and green card processes in order to “replace American workers with what is effectively foreign indentured servants.” Officials announced probes into 9 universities, including Harvard, Yale, and Stanford, that the Administration accused of misusing a program meant for temporary educational and cultural exchanges.

00:00 Friday Headlines: Execution, ICE, and Iran

04:30 The Fort Hood Shooter and a Livestreamed Firing Squad

10:14 Hosts React to Pete Hegseth’s Execution Clip

16:20 Insanity Defense or a Deliberate Choice?

26:33 Why Stream an Execution, and Who It Signals

42:37 Unmarked ICE Cars and a Bronx Shooting

68:18 Trump Delays the Next Strikes on Iran

79:06 H-1B Visas and the Crackdown on Universities

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• Israeli settler-terrorists attacked and fired at two Agence France-Presse journalists as they were reporting on settler violence against Palestinian olive farmers in the West Bank. Photographers Jaafar Ashtiyeh and John Wessels were taking pictures of an IDF soldier detaining a man when a driver on a quad bike opened fire with at least six other colonists and stole their camera equipment. Ashtiyeh tried to escape into a car marked “Press,” but two men assaulted him and beat him with the butts of their rifles.

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• María del Carmen Abascal, the 87-year-old woman whose eviction from her home two weeks ago prompted widespread protests in Spain and spurred the prime minister to call national elections, died.

• Italian lawmakers approved a law that awards bonus seats in Parliament to election winners, a move supporters say will help prevent governments from collapsing and that detractors denounce as unconstitutional and antidemocratic. Championed by Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, who had threatened to resign should the legislation not pass, the new law gives a bonus to the winning party or coalition of an election: 70 seats in the lower house of Parliament and 35 in the Senate, provided the party or coalition reaches 42 percent in both houses. Italy has a 600-seat Parliament, with 400 seats in the lower house and 200 seats in the Senate.

• Krista Pike is talking and walking. Maj. Nidal Hasan will be executed by firing squad at Fort Hood, Texas, on Dec. 3, for fatally shooting 13 people and wounding 32 in 2009 at the same base. Gov. Gavin Newsom is seriously considering whether to spare the lives of all 563 prisoners on death row in California as one of his final acts in office.

00:10 Opening Rundown on Settlers, Abascal, and Death Row

03:39 María Abascal and the Eviction That Killed Her

18:17 Christa Pike, Nidal Hasan, and Newsom’s Death Row

38:15 Collective Guilt from Nuremberg to U.S. Wars

43:51 Can China Change Course Faster Than America?

49:23 West Bank Settlers Attack AFP Journalists

55:35 Meloni’s Bonus Seats and Italian Stability

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