Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is Pastor/Author/Podcaster Derek Kubilus. Derek just released a fantastic book on the topic of Hell, how we came to view Hell as we do, and what that says about how we view God.  Derek is an ordained elder serving in the East Ohio Conference of the United Methodist Church. He is also a member of the Order of Saint Luke and an amateur podcaster. Guest (select) publications: The Real War on Terror: Waging Holy War in the Peaceful Kingdom; Holy Hell: A Case against Eternal Damnation  
 Check out Derek’s podcast: Cross Over Q Guest Website/Social Media:  Twitter: @DerekKubilus1 
 Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic  Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic  
 Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP 
 You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! 
 This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct50 for 50% off PLUS free shipping!  
 This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson  
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Derek Kubilus "Holy Hell: A Case Against Eternal Damnation" pt. 1

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Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is comedian Doug Smith. Doug is a former Jehovah’s Witness who is searching for silver lining in growing up inside a doomsday cult. We talk about how his family got involved with the Jehovah’s Witnesses and what it was like to walk away.  
 Check out Doug’s podcast: Jehovah Boy with Doug Smith Guest Website/Social Media:  www.dougsmithcomedy.com  Twitter, Instagram, Tik Tok, & YouTube: @whodougsmith  
 Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic  Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic  
 Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP 
 You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! 
 This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson  
 Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media 
 Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists  
 Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.  
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Doug Smith "Growing up in a cult"

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is Sarah Stankorb! Sarah is the author of the book Disobedient Women, which is a culmination of years reporting on women who used the internet to call out abuse within their evangelical communities. It is a book for and about people of faith and those who have walked away. The deeply researched work gives long-overdue recognition to the women who upturned their lives to speak out boldly, even as they were expected to submit and remain silent.  
 Sarah’s articles and essays have appeared in publications including The Washington Post Magazine, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Vogue, Marie Claire, Glamour, O Magazine, Longreads, Catapult, Slate, The Guardian, The Atlantic, The Atavist, CNNMoney, GOOD Magazine, Salon, KIWI, Babble, Geez, The Morning News, DAME Magazine, The Christian Science Monitor, Brain, Child Magazine, Proto, Skirt, Bethesda Magazine, and Cincinnati Magazine.  
 Her beat spans politics, the environment, health, technology, religion and cultural commentary.  
 Guest (select) publications: Disobedient Women: How a Small Group of Faithful Women Exposed Abuse, Brought Down Powerful Pastors, and Ignited an Evangelical Reckoning.  
 Guest Website/Social Media:  www.sarahstankorb.com  Twitter: @sarahstankorb  Instagram: @sarahstankorb  TikTok: @sarahstankorb  
 
 Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic  Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic   
 Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP 
 You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! 
 This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson  
 Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media. We have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!  
 Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists  
 Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

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Sarah Stankorb "Disobedient Women" pt. 2

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is Sarah Stankorb! Sarah is the author of the book Disobedient Women, which is a culmination of years reporting on women who used the internet to call out abuse within their evangelical communities. It is a book for and about people of faith and those who have walked away. The deeply researched work gives long-overdue recognition to the women who upturned their lives to speak out boldly, even as they were expected to submit and remain silent.  
 Sarah’s articles and essays have appeared in publications including The Washington Post Magazine, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Vogue, Marie Claire, Glamour, O Magazine, Longreads, Catapult, Slate, The Guardian, The Atlantic, The Atavist, CNNMoney, GOOD Magazine, Salon, KIWI, Babble, Geez, The Morning News, DAME Magazine, The Christian Science Monitor, Brain, Child Magazine, Proto, Skirt, Bethesda Magazine, and Cincinnati Magazine.  
 Her beat spans politics, the environment, health, technology, religion and cultural commentary.  
 
 Guest (select) publications: Disobedient Women: How a Small Group of Faithful Women Exposed Abuse, Brought Down Powerful Pastors, and Ignited an Evangelical Reckoning.  
 Guest Website/Social Media:  www.sarahstankorb.com  Twitter: @sarahstankorb  Instagram: @sarahstankorb  TikTok: @sarahstankorb  
 
 Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic  Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic   
 Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP 
 You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! 
 This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson  
 Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media. We have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!  
 Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists  
 Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

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Sarah Stankorb "Disobedient Women" pt. 1

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is Dr. Greg Garrett! Greg is a writer, speaker, musician, and professor. He’s the critically acclaimed author of over two dozen books of fiction and nonfiction including his latest, “The Gospel According to James Baldwin: What America’s Great Prophet Can Teach Us about Life, Love, and Identity.”  
 Greg studied at Oklahoma State University where he received his PhD in English. He then continued his education with post-doctoral studies in Holocaust Studies at the University of Oregon and later received his Masters in Divinity from the Episcopal Theological Seminary of the Southwest in Austin, Texas.  
 
 Guest (select) publications: My Church is NOT Dying: Episopalians in the 21st Century; Crossing Myself: A Story of Spiritual Rebirth; We Get To Carry Each Other: The Gospel According to U2; Holy Superheroes; The Gospel According to Hollywood; The Other Jesus: Rejecting a Religion of Fear for the God of Love; Stories From The Edge: A Theology of Grief; Living With The Living Dead: The Wisdom of the Zombie Apocalypse; Entertaining Judgement: The Afterlife in Popular Imagination; The Gospel According to James Baldwin: What America’s Great Prophet Can Teach Us about Life, Love, and Identity  
 James Baldwin (select) publications: The Fire Next Time; Giovanni’s Room; Go Tell It on the Mountain; Notes of a Native Son; Another Country; If Beale Street Could Talk; Nobody Knows My Name 
 
 Guest Website/Social Media:  Twitter: @Greg1Garrett  
 Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic  Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic  
 Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP 
 You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! 
 Check out Factor 75 and use my code deconstruct50 for a great deal: https://www.factor75.com/ 
 This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson  
 Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media. We have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!  
 Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists  
 Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.  
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Dr. Greg Garrett "The Gospel According to James Baldwin" pt. 2

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is Dr. Greg Garrett! Greg is a writer, speaker, musician, and professor. He’s the critically acclaimed author of over two dozen books of fiction and nonfiction including his latest, “The Gospel According to James Baldwin: What America’s Great Prophet Can Teach Us about Life, Love, and Identity.”  
 Greg studied at Oklahoma State University where he received his PhD in English. He then continued his education with post-doctoral studies in Holocaust Studies at the University of Oregon and later received his Masters in Divinity from the Episcopal Theological Seminary of the Southwest in Austin, Texas.  
 
 Guest (select) publications: My Church is NOT Dying: Episopalians in the 21st Century; Crossing Myself: A Story of Spiritual Rebirth; We Get To Carry Each Other: The Gospel According to U2; Holy Superheroes; The Gospel According to Hollywood; The Other Jesus: Rejecting a Religion of Fear for the God of Love; Stories From The Edge: A Theology of Grief; Living With The Living Dead: The Wisdom of the Zombie Apocalypse; Entertaining Judgement: The Afterlife in Popular Imagination; The Gospel According to James Baldwin: What America’s Great Prophet Can Teach Us about Life, Love, and Identity  
 James Baldwin (select) publications: The Fire Next Time; Giovanni’s Room; Go Tell It on the Mountain; Notes of a Native Son; Another Country; If Beale Street Could Talk; Nobody Knows My Name 
 Guest Website/Social Media:  Twitter: @Greg1Garrett  
 Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic  Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic  
 Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP 
 You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! 
 Check out Factor 75 and use my code deconstruct50 for a great deal: https://www.factor75.com/ 
 This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson  
 Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media. We have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!  
 Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists  
 Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

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Derek Kubilus "Holy Hell: A Case Against Eternal Damnation" pt. 1

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