This week on CLOC Talk, CEO and Co-Founder of WOW Legal Experience Karol Valencia joins host Jenn McCarron for a colorful conversation on the most elusive of all unicorns, the legal design unicorn.

If you have been in the comments on LinkedIn lately you have heard Jenn's thoughts on the topic of legal design.

This conversation with Karol may have changed her mind on a few things.

And one more thing, does everyone in Legal Ops have a side gig as a musician?