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  • The Fedora Project: 64: What's New in Fedora 45

    Fedora Linux 45 is out, and we wanted to know what's actually in it and what you should know before you hit the upgrade button. So we asked the person who runs the release. Aoife Moloney is the Fedora Operations Architect, and Fedora 45 is her first release back after a year away.

    We get into:

    • The headlines: GNOME 51 and KDE Plasma 6.8, including the new drag and drop counter in Files and Plasma's dwell clicker accessibility feature
    • The changes you'll actually notice: retired NetworkManager VPN plugins, nearly every package now reproducible, and RPM refusing unsigned packages by default
    • Whether to upgrade now or give it a week or two, and why the upgrade itself has gotten so much easier
    • The Atomic desktops moving to Image Builder, and where bootc fits in
    • How to help with the next release: release notes, test weeks, wallpaper ideas, and change proposals
    • How Fedora 46 is already taking shape, plus RISC-V images and Stratis in the installer

      • Aoife is also the first equestrian we've ever had on the Fedora Podcast. The challenge is on to make sure she isn't the last.

      Fedora 45 is out now. Upgrade, break something, and tell us about it in the comments or the Matrix room.

      Special Guest: Aoife Moloney.

      Links:

      • Announcing Fedora Linux 45
    • What's New in Fedora Workstation 45
    • What's New in Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop 45
    • What's New for Fedora Atomic Desktops in Fedora Linux 45
    • Migrating away from unmaintained NetworkManager VPN plugins
    • Installing Fedora 45 on Stratis storage
    • Fedora 45 release notes
    • Upgrading Fedora
    • Fedora 46 change set
    • Fedora Test Days
    • Fedora Discussion
    • Aoife Moloney on Fedora Magazine
    • FP063 Fedora as a Server
      • 42 min
    • The Fedora Project: 63: Fedora as a Server? Would You Do It?

      Plenty of sysadmins will tell you Fedora is a great desktop and the wrong choice for a server. Is that still true, or is it a reputation Fedora hasn't outgrown? This week it's just the two of us, and we put the question to ourselves.

      We get into:

      • Where the hesitation actually comes from, and whether it describes the Fedora of today or the Fedora of a few years ago
      • What Fedora Server is, who it's for, and how it sits next to the image-based options
      • Whether bootc changes the math, when the OS is an image you build and roll back rather than a thing you upgrade in place
      • Fedora as an appliance, which Noah is seeing more of in industry, including one running inside a medical organization
      • Nine months of support, and what a live upgrade path would have to look like
      • Noah's argument that the thing standing between Fedora and a production server is not technical at all, it's a path of escalation, and that IT malpractice is a real category

        • We also go thoroughly off topic for a few minutes while Noah explains why ad targeting feels like your phone is listening to you, and why it isn't. Eric calls it out on air. We left it in.

        No guest this week. Just the two of us arguing in good faith and mostly landing on "it depends."

        So we want your answer. Would you run Fedora on a server, and why or why not? Bonus points if you have actually done it in production. Comments, the Matrix room, or, as Noah correctly points out, RFC 1149.

        Links:

        • Fedora Server
      • Fedora Server documentation
      • Fedora bootc documentation
      • FP054 BootC in the Wild
      • FP062 What is Hummingbird
      • RFC 1149, IP over Avian Carriers
        • 44 min
      • The Fedora Project: 62: What is Fedora Hummingbird Linux?

        Red Hat announced Hummingbird at Summit back in May. Five months later there are Hummingbird containers in the wild, a spin of Fedora Linux built on the same principles, and a full Bluefin ISO built on top of it.

        Scott McCarty is a senior principal product manager at Red Hat who kicked off Podman with the team and launched Red Hat Universal Base Image. Jorge Castro runs Project Bluefin and was last on the show back when it was still rpm-ostree. Noah is out this week, so Eric flies solo.

        We get into:

        • Two things launched at Summit, not one. Red Hat hardened images went generally available and Fedora Hummingbird Linux was announced, and they are not the same thing
        • The real difference between them, which comes down to whether there is a kernel in it. A container image will never boot. Add a kernel and it becomes a bootable container
        • Roughly 95 percent of Hummingbird comes from Fedora Rawhide, with the rest pulled from the major releases or run ahead of Fedora when something lands upstream first
        • Why patching speed suddenly matters, and Scott walking through time to exploit collapsing from two and a half years and a seven person team down to days for one person
        • Risk based versus compliance based patching, and why Scott will not call any of this more secure, only different
        • Utah Raptor, which Jorge built the first cut of in a bar on a dare, and what it took 13 people 22 days to turn into a shippable Bluefin
        • What it actually takes to point an existing bootc home lab at Hummingbird, which turns out to be a pointer change

          • Scott and Jorge both close with the same ask: tell them what you would actually use this for. The Fedora discussion threads are open, and there is a thread for every episode of this show.

          Special Guests: Jorge Castro and Scott McCarty.

          Links:

          • Fedora Hummingbird on Fedora Discussion
        • Fedora Hummingbird on Fedora Forge
        • Red Hat Hardened Images
        • Chasing the holy grail, why Hummingbird aims for near zero CVEs
        • Project Bluefin
        • Utah, Bluefin built on Fedora Hummingbird
        • Fedora bootc documentation
        • RamaLama
        • goose
        • Background on Claude Mythos
        • Scott McCarty on LinkedIn
        • Jorge Castro on LinkedIn
          • 48 min
        • The Fedora Project: 61: Framework Laptop 12 Meets Fedora

          Framework does not have a storefront you can walk into. What they do have is a laptop you can order that arrives with Fedora already on it, and a screwdriver in the box.

          Michael Tunnell is the Senior Marketing Manager for Linux Marketing at Framework, and spent years covering this ecosystem at TuxDigital before joining. Noah is back this week after missing the last episode while stuck forty feet up on a scissor lift with a dead battery.

          We get into:

          • Why Fedora KDE, and why the answer is a boring technical one: KDE tested best for stylus and touchscreen, and Fedora moves fast enough on the kernel for brand new silicon
          • The 80 percent of Laptop 12 owners already running Linux, measured before any preload existed, so every one of them installed it themselves
          • What "officially supported" means at Framework: engineering collaboration with the distro, support for the distro, and a dedicated Linux support specialist a customer can actually reach
          • Real upstream fixes, including a CPU limiter and thermals bug on Wildcat Lake, audio modules, and screen rotation, all landed in Fedora and the kernel
          • The expansion card system, with two of the four slots on the 12 running Thunderbolt 4
          • ZMK open source keyboard firmware, published CAD files, and 3D printable components
          • What it costs a company to commit to repairability instead of planned obsolescence

            • There is a written companion post at https://itguyeric.com/blog/fedora-ep61-framework-laptop-12/

            Special Guest: Michael Tunnell.

            Links:

            • Framework Laptop 12
          • Framework Linux support
          • Fedora Magazine: Framework Laptop 12 Arrives with Fedora Pre-installed
          • Framework blog: Laptop 12 now with Core Series 3
          • Fedora Podcast 44 with Matt Hartley
          • Michael Tunnell
          • TuxDigital
          • Companion post
          • Watch on YouTube
          • Watch on PeerTube
            • 39 min
          • The Fedora Project: 60: Changing of the Guard, the New Fedora Community Architect

            Fedora has a job whose entire purpose is the health of the community around the distribution, and this month a new person took it over. So we got both of them on at once.

            Justin Wheeler has held the Fedora Community Architect seat since 2022 and is moving into a new role as AI Alignment Community Architect. Shaun McCance is stepping into the Fedora role while staying on as CentOS Community Architect. Noah is out this episode, so Eric hosts solo.

            We get into:

            • Where the role came from, why Robyn Bergeron pushed for it in 2015, and how it went from community outreach and impact lead to Fedora Community Architect in January 2023
            • What actually lands on the desk: a Council seat, the Mindshare Committee, the Code of Conduct Committee, budget stewardship, and Flock
            • How Mindshare funding works for ambassadors, local organizers, and anyone who just needs a box of stickers and will write an event report
            • Justin's new AI Alignment role, why he wrote his own job description, and why he thinks community consent on AI has to be earned rather than assumed
            • This Week in Fedora, and the argument that started when a bot began ingesting messages from a public but non-indexed Matrix room
            • What Shaun brings from CentOS and from years as GNOME Foundation treasurer, and what he finds daunting about Fedora's breadth
            • Why one shared budget spreadsheet is not a merger, and what stays separate on purpose
            • Where to find both projects: CentOS Connect January 28 and 29 in Brussels, DevConf US September 24 and 25 in Boston, Texas Linux Fest in November, and All Things Open

              • There is a written companion post at https://itguyeric.com/blog/fedora-ep60-changing-of-the-guard/

              Special Guests: Justin Wheeler and Shaun McCance.

              Links:

              • The announcement on Fedora Magazine
            • Fedora Podcast planning on Fedora Forge
            • Fedora Community Architect role charter
            • CentOS Connect
            • Flock to Fedora
            • Shaun McCance on LinkedIn
            • Justin Wheeler on LinkedIn
            • Justin Wheeler's blog
            • Companion post
            • Watch on YouTube
              • 51 min
            • The Fedora Project: 59: What is CentOS?

              A couple of episodes ago we talked to Carl George about EPEL, and half that conversation ended up being about CentOS. The questions kept coming, so we made a whole episode out of it.

              This is the biggest panel the show has ever had. Amy Marrich chairs the CentOS Board and does technical marketing for OpenStack at Red Hat. Troy Dawson leads the CentOS Stream team, sits on the board, and builds CentOS Stream for RISC-V. Shaun McCance is the CentOS Community Architect, and as of two weeks ago the Fedora Community Architect as well.

              We get into:

              • Why CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream are different projects, and why one of them retired around RHEL 9
              • The pipeline: Fedora, then Fedora ELN, then CentOS Stream, then RHEL, and why Btrfs is the example everyone reaches for
              • How Stream and RHEL now build from the same commit, on a one-week cadence versus six months
              • Why partners shipped on RHEL 9 launch day because they had been building against Stream 9
              • How the board actually works, why only one seat speaks for Red Hat, and what the SIGs and the SIG Council do
              • Where to file a bug (against RHEL, not at Troy)
              • How to contribute without writing code, and why being new makes you good at documentation

                • There is a written companion post at https://itguyeric.com/blog/fedora-ep59-what-is-centos/

                Special Guests: Amy Marrich, Shaun McCance, and Troy Dawson.

                48 min
              • Linux Out Loud: 226: Tumbleweed, Tablet Trouble, and the Browser Grudge Match | Linux Out Loud 128

                It’s back-to-school season on Linux Out Loud! Wendy gives Ultramarine Linux high marks after moving camp laptops over from Zorin and getting DaVinci Resolve working with Nvidia, while Nate explains his hybrid-atomic openSUSE Tumbleweed update workflow and continues his one-sided feud with Microsoft Edge. Bill returns from the Pacific Northwest, starts a new professional chapter, and explores FleetDM as an open-source way to manage a growing herd of devices.

                Show Links:

                Wendy
                • Ultramarine Linux
                  • https://ultramarine-linux.org/
                • DaVinciBox — run DaVinci Resolve in a container
                  • https://github.com/zelikos/davincibox
                • Helium Browser
                  • https://helium.computer/
                • Apache Guacamole
                  • https://guacamole.apache.org/
                • RustDesk
                  • https://rustdesk.com/
                  Nate
                  • Hybrid Atomic Updates with openSUSE Tumbleweed
                    • https://cubiclenate.com/2026/07/24/hybrid-atomic-updates-with-opensuse-tumbleweed/
                  • Simplifying Admin Tasks in openSUSE with the Wheel Group
                    • https://cubiclenate.com/2025/02/04/simplifying-admin-tasks-in-opensuse-with-the-wheel-group/
                    Bill
                    • FleetDM — open-source device management
                      • https://fleetdm.com/

                      Chapters:

                      00:00 Back to School, Back to Linux

                      00:43 Ultramarine Makes the Grade
                      01:51 DaVinci Resolve Needs a Permission Slip
                      06:39 The Camp Laptop Distro Swap
                      07:03 Nate vs. Edge: The Browser Grudge Match
                      16:24 Tumbleweed Updates Without the Homework
                      24:19 Bill’s New Chapter and Northwest Escape
                      28:17 FleetDM: Open-Source Device Wrangling
                      33:27 Remote Desktop Without the Desk
                      38:22 Apple Tablets: Colorful Language Required
                      39:32 Don’t Turn Your Hobby Into Homework
                      50:51 Recess Is Over: The Outro

                      Connect with the Hosts on Discord:

                      • Matt – @Dark1ltg
                      • Wendy – @Wendy.sh
                      • Nate – CubicleNate.com @CubicleNate
                      • Bill – @ctlinux on Mastodon
                      • Neal - @[email protected] on Mastodon

                        • Special Guest: Bill.

                        52 min
                      • The Fedora Project: 58: Where Can You Engage with Fedora?

                        Fedora is a huge project with a lot of doors in. In this episode Eric and Noah walk through the different ways to find your people in Fedora, from real time chat on Matrix to long form discussion on Fedora Discourse, reading Fedora Magazine, getting a friendly hand from the Join SIG, and catching up on project wide activity through This Week in Fedora. If you have ever wondered where to start, this one is for you.

                        Chapters

                        00:00 Intro
                        01:57 What is Matrix?
                        05:19 Fedora on Matrix
                        11:18 Matrix clients: Element and beyond
                        20:01 Fedora Discourse
                        23:14 Fedora Magazine
                        30:07 The Join SIG
                        33:22 What can I do for Fedora?
                        36:51 This Week in Fedora
                        44:56 Wrap-up

                        Links from this episode

                        Fedora Chat (Matrix): https://chat.fedoraproject.org
                        Fedora Discourse: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org
                        Fedora Magazine: https://fedoramagazine.org
                        Fedora Join SIG: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-join/
                        This Week in Fedora: https://abompard.fedorapeople.org/twif/
                        Fedora Community Blog: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org
                        What can I do for Fedora?: https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/

                        New to Fedora? Get started: https://fedoraproject.org/

                        Follow the Fedora Podcast: https://podcast.fedoraproject.org
                        Join the conversation on Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#podcast:fedoraproject.org
                        Become part of the Fedora community: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/
                        Connect with Eric the IT Guy: https://linktr.ee/itguyeric
                        Connect with Noah Chelliah: https://noahc.us/about

                        Fedora #Linux #Matrix #FedoraMagazine #OpenSource #FOSS #Community #GetInvolved #Podcast

                        Licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0.

                        46 min
                      • The Fedora Project: 57: What is EPEL

                        EPEL is one of those repos a lot of us turned on without thinking twice. This episode, Noah and Eric sit down with Carl George, who leads the EPEL team at Red Hat, to explain what EPEL actually is, the golden rule that gives it its reputation, and the changes Carl is proposing for EPEL 11. If you run enterprise Linux, or you have ever typed dnf install epel-release, this one is for you.

                        Carl is collecting feedback on the EPEL 11 idea right now, so give it a listen and jump into the thread.

                        Chapters

                        00:00 Intro
                        01:12 Meet Carl George
                        04:25 What is EPEL?
                        07:50 EPEL's golden rule
                        09:32 Getting started: CRB + epel-release
                        10:38 Who governs EPEL
                        16:08 The road to EPEL 10
                        21:45 Minor versions and the EPEL team
                        24:44 The private mirror problem
                        34:09 Cleaning it up in EPEL 11
                        40:26 Getting involved & RPM packaging
                        50:36 Wrap-up

                        Links from this episode

                        EPEL 11 discussion thread: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/looking-back-at-epel-10-and-forward-to-epel-11/197373
                        EPEL branches documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/epel/branches/
                        How to request an EPEL package: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/epel/epel-package-request/
                        What can I do for Fedora?: https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/
                        Join the Package Maintainers: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Joining_the_Package_Maintainers/
                        RPM packaging lab (RHDP): https://zero.rhdp.net/lab/zt-rhelbu.zt-rpmbuild.prod

                        New to Fedora? Get started: https://fedoraproject.org/

                        Follow the Fedora Podcast: https://podcast.fedoraproject.org
                        Join the conversation on Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#podcast:fedoraproject.org
                        Become part of the Fedora community: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/
                        Connect with Eric the IT Guy: https://linktr.ee/itguyeric

                        Our guest: Carl George, EPEL Team Lead at Red Hat (https://fedoraproject.fireside.fm/guests/carl-george)

                        Fedora #EPEL #Linux #RHEL #CentOS #EnterpriseLinux #RPM #OpenSource #SysAdmin #Podcast

                        Licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0.

                        Special Guest: Carl George.

                        52 min
                      • Sudo Show: 78: The Framework Effect: Michael Tunnell on Linux, Laptops & Open Hardware | SUDO Show 78

                        Join us on this episode of SUDO Show as we explore the intersection of Linux, laptops, and open hardware with special guest Michael Tunnell. We dive into Framework’s groundbreaking approach to modular laptops, the philosophy behind open hardware, and Michael’s journey as a Linux advocate and content creator. Whether you're a developer, tinkerer, or just curious about the future of tech, this episode is packed with insights on innovation, sustainability, and the power of community-driven tech.

                        Show Links:

                        • Framework Official Website https://frame.work
                        • TuxDigital Official Website https://tuxdigital.com
                        • Michael Tunnell’s YouTube Channel https://youtube.com/michaeltunnell
                        • Framework Linux Support Page https://frame.work/linux

                          • Special Guest: Michael Tunnell.

                          1 hr 34 min

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