Jesse originally appeared way back in episode 106, almost four years ago. A lot has happened since that time, and Jesse takes us through the changes that have occurred in his life recently. We talk about his pivot away from education and into the mental health space, we talk about why white guys can be so incredibly awkward (he speaks from a place of knowledge!), and we discuss everything from parenting to suburban life, from taking a more active role in discovering and forming community to his future as a musician. Hope you enjoy our conversation!