Devin Townsend and Anneke van Giersbergen join We Wreck Records for a deep, funny and unexpectedly emotional conversation about music, friendship and the strange process of becoming human through art. Across nearly 90 minutes, the longtime collaborators reflect on the chemistry behind their work together, the records that made people cry and why music only works when it affects the artists making it too. The episode also dives into Devin's upcoming project The Moth, alongside conversations about authenticity, platonic love, trauma, transformation, creativity, touring, AI, Steve Vai, Enya and the emotional chaos of being alive. Expect an intimate conversation between two artists who genuinely trust each other.

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