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In this summer catch-up episode of DevOps Sauna, Darren and Pinja dive into the biggest tech and culture stories of the past months. From OpenAI’s failed Windsurf deal and Google’s licensing swoops, to Sam Altman calling AI a bubble and GitHub’s leadership shake-up, they explore how AI, security, and open-source are reshaping the industry. They also unpack Nvidia’s $4 trillion milestone, US and EU AI regulation battles, and a surprising study on insecure code releases. And to close on a lighter note, they celebrate the global spread of Finnish sauna culture—now floating on rivers in Australia.

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As summer holidays roll in, Pinja and Darren take a step back from the usual deep dives into DevOps to reflect on the past six months of the DevOps Sauna. From endless AI debates and myth-busting episodes (“Is Jenkins dead?”) to accessibility, platform engineering at the edge, and even a full episode on sauna culture, they revisit the highlights, surprises, and fun along the way. They also share some of Eficode’s recent wins, welcome a new CEO, and admit to pulling off a very Finnish April Fools’ episode. Join us for a lighter, summer-ready conversation that celebrates both the serious and the silly moments from the podcast so far.

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In this episode, we celebrate winning Atlassian’s Partner of the Year – World-Class Software Development award and explore what it truly means. CTO of Managed Services Kalle Sirkesalo joins Darren and Pinja to discuss how Eficode transforms the way teams build software—focusing on culture, tools, processes, and people over code. From AI and platform engineering to security and feedback loops, we unpack how to create lasting impact in modern software development.

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In the final episode of their mini-series on platform engineering at the edge, Darren and Pinja dive deep into the often-overlooked security risks of edge and IoT environments. From car key hacks and USB-based keyboard attacks to ransomware targeting medical devices and smart cities, they reveal how proximity and physical access change the rules of cybersecurity. You’ll also hear practical ways to secure your edge platforms, the role of platform engineering in remote monitoring, and how upcoming EU regulations like NIS2 and the Cyber Resilience Act may shape the future.

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Darren and Pinja continue their series on platform engineering on the edge by diving into some of the most fascinating real-world use cases. From software updates on the Voyager space probes and Antarctic research stations to cars, planes, and even grocery delivery robots, they explore how platform engineering makes these edge deployments reliable, self-healing, and secure. This episode is full of stories and lessons on what it takes to manage software far beyond traditional data centers and clouds.

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Darren and Pinja break down the basics of platform engineering on the edge, from the “boring” to the truly remote and unreachable. They explore how GitOps, Kubernetes, and infrastructure as code enable reliable software updates in spotty or disconnected environments—whether in cars, factories, ships, or even Mars rovers—and why getting edge engineering right matters now more than ever.

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Darren and Pinja dive into the risks of “vibe coding,” discussing how AI-generated code, supply chain attacks, and typosquatting increase security challenges, and explore practical ways to secure dependencies and prepare for the future of AI-driven development.

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Patrick Debois, known as the father of DevOps, joins Darren Richardson and Pinja Kujala to discuss the future of software development, the evolving role of AI in the SDLC, and how developer experience and human judgment fit into an increasingly automated world.

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In this episode of the DevOps Sauna, Darren Richardson and Pinja Kujala sit down with Jamie Dobson to explore his new book Visionaries, Rebels, and Machines—a high-energy journey through the breakthroughs and lucky accidents that pushed technology from steam engines to today’s AI-powered cloud.

Learn how adopting AI-led DevOps practices can supercharge your teams and set your organization on the path to becoming truly AI-native:
 https://www.eficode.com/services/ai-success-roadmap-for-software-development

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Celebrating the 200th episode of the DevOps Sauna podcast, Darren Richardson and Pinja Kujala are joined by longtime Eficodeans, Ilari Nurmi, Henri Hamalainen, and Marko Klemetti, to reminisce and celebrate the history of Eficode and the company's 20th anniversary.

NOTE: This episode was recorded to celebrate our company’s 20th anniversary and features a conversation with Ilari, who—at the time—was serving as Eficode's CEO. Since then, Ilari has moved on from the company.

We want to take a moment to thank him for his incredible leadership over the past six years, a period marked by remarkable growth. His impact on our journey will be lasting, and we’re grateful to have captured his reflections during such a meaningful milestone.