Everyone said they'd never make it, but Zak and Aaron finally made it to 40. Well, the podcast did, and the number refers to episodes rather than years, but why quibble over semantics?

This time around, our intrepid hosts dip their proverbial toes into the depths of depravity by chatting about Blizzard's new mobile title "Diablo Immortal," look at the sunny side of life by shining a light on some new game workers' unions, and use the recent State of Play to evaluate the state of PlayStation.

Please, enjoy.

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