Dialogue Over Division

In this episode, Doug Main, Vice President of Communications for PACE (

From the cost-effectiveness of net-zero buildings to the practicality of electric buses, Doug addresses concerns about whether certain initiatives are truly serving the public interest. He emphasizes the need for greater transparency and public engagement, noting that informed and active citizens are key to holding local governments accountable.

Doug introduces the concept of political parties at the municipal level, a role PACE hopes to fulfill by offering voters more clarity and choice. While the regulatory framework for municipal parties is still evolving, he explains how these parties could be established in a way similar to provincial regulations. Doug also shares PACE’s plans for organizing, calling for "pace setters" in each ward to take leadership roles and build strong local associations.

He stresses the importance of civic involvement, encouraging people to attend PACE’s information meetings to learn how they can help drive change. His message is clear: if you want to see meaningful improvements in your community, you need to get involved and make your voice heard.

As you listen, ask yourself: When was the last time you reached out to your local representative or attended a City Council meeting? Civic engagement doesn’t have to be overwhelming—it can start with a simple conversation, a question, or an idea. Everyday citizens, just like you, can make a lasting impact on their communities. And remember, the first step toward change is getting involved!

Welcome to another episode of Dialogue over Division with Kelly Donovan, a former police officer and the author of Police Line: Do Not Cross: Silencing a Canadian Police Whistleblower. Kelly's remarkable story is a testament to standing up against entrenched, broken systems that often prioritize self-preservation over public welfare. Her experiences highlight the secrecy and fear within policing culture, that should be concerning to all citizens. Despite reaching out to various government officials for help, Kelly faced retaliation as a whistleblower, with many in power choosing to turn a blind eye.

Yet, in the face of injustice, Kelly didn't back down; she took action. Witnessing systemic issues in how police handled internal matters, she joined the force to get involved and gain insight. When confronted with legal injustices, she equipped herself with knowledge and successfully challenged high-powered lawyers in court. Kelly didn’t just stand her ground—she leveled up.

Kelly’s experiences underscore a critical lesson: when we ignore injustice and fail to act, problems become entrenched, and real progress stalls. To keep our democratic system strong and effective, we must confront power head-on and demand accountability. Kelly’s story is a powerful reminder that each of us has the capacity to effect change, and it is our collective responsibility to do so.

To learn more about Kelly’s story, you can purchase her book here: Police Line: Do Not Cross: Silencing a Canadian Police Whistleblower: Donovan, Kelly: 9781999245528: Books - Amazon.ca.

Join us as Kelly shares her inspiring journey and insights on how we can all contribute to a healthier, more accountable democracy.

On this episode of Dialogue over Division, we are excited to welcome Adrian Brown, Executive Director of the Centre for Public Impact. With over 20 years of experience in government performance and transformation, Adrian holds an MBA from Harvard Business School and a Master of Arts in Management Studies from the University of Cambridge. He brings a deep understanding of the complexities of governance and a passion for fostering innovation and resilience in government through strategic long-term thinking.

In our conversation, Adrian shares his vision for better governance, emphasizing the need to foster an informed and engaged citizenry. We explore how addressing social issues requires acknowledging their complexity and striving for resolution rather than perfection, recognizing that each of us plays a part in the solution. We also discuss the difficulties of being a public figure in today’s polarized environment, where leaders often face intense scrutiny. While this scrutiny is necessary, it can sometimes hinder innovation and bold decision-making in government. Adrian believes that through strategic long-term thinking and learning from failures, we can build a more resilient public sector that not only withstands these pressures but thrives under them.

As we navigate these ideas, it’s essential to consider: How can we, as citizens, contribute to a governance system that is not just reactive but proactive in addressing the needs of all? What role do we play in ensuring that our government remains accountable and responsive to the evolving challenges of our time? Adrian’s insights challenge us to embrace our shared responsibility in shaping the future of governance, emphasizing that while the path may not always be easy, it is one we must commit to together.

Join us as we delve into these critical topics and discuss how we can collectively work towards a more effective, transparent, and resilient government.

Find out more about Adrian and his organization at: https://www.centreforpublicimpact.org/

In this episode of Dialogue over Division, we sit down with Mike and James of The Critical Compass to delve into the importance of nuanced, good faith political discussion. We explore how such dialogue is essential for driving real change and avoiding unnecessary vitriol and division. We share insights on how Canadians can engage more productively in civic life, emphasizing the need for understanding and cooperation in our political conversations. We move from talking about the problems to doing something about them!

Civic engagement goes beyond voting and attending town halls; it involves actively participating in community initiatives, staying informed about local and national issues, and fostering open, respectful conversations. Together, we discuss strategies for encouraging wider participation in civic activities, highlighting the role of education, community outreach, and accessible platforms for public discourse. Mike and James also emphasize the importance of building an environment where diverse opinions are heard and respected, ultimately leading to greater and more informed participation.

Tune in to hear their valuable perspectives on fostering a more engaged and respectful civic environment. Learn how every Canadian can contribute to a more cohesive and responsive political landscape through meaningful civic engagement and dialogue. Most importantly, don't forget to get involved!

In this episode of Dialogue Over Division, we spoke with Marco Van Huigenbos. Marco immigrated from the Netherlands to rural Alberta in 1996, building a life centered around farming, business, and family. At 26, driven by his dedication to his community, Marco ran for municipal council.

Marco provides examples of some of the issues he was involved with while in his role, and he also shares the frustrations he faced and complexities he encountered. He describes how public officials on a local level are held to account more readily due to the smaller area they are charged with. He had citizens approaching and asking him questions at the grocery store highlighting the importance of governance and accountability at local levels.

As government officials mismanaged C0vid, Marco felt that citizens' voices were being ignored. This frustration led him to participate in the Coutts protest as a form of civil disobedience. His participation resulted in a charge six months later and ultimately his conviction. On July 22, he will be arraigned in connection with this matter.

Marco's journey invites us to consider the importance of civic engagement in ensuring that every citizen's voice is heard, despite the challenges and frustrations that come with holding the government accountable. If we don't know about the problems, we cannot fix them. Marco's involvement exposes some of these issues.

Listen now and share your thoughts on this crucial topic. Do you see Marco as a criminal or a dedicated citizen striving to be heard?

This podcast series is your guide to becoming a more informed and engaged citizen. It's a call to action for you to take an active role in maintaining the vitality of our democracy.

In this episode of Dialogue over Division, we are thrilled to welcome Jesse Berger, who brings over a decade of experience on Bay Street as a banker, investment advisor, and management consultant. Jesse will explain Bitcoin and its potential impact on the current financial system. He is an advocate for freedom and a critic of central planning, particularly in the context of the Covid response. His insightful critiques and analyses can be found on his Smoked Signals Substack, where he delves into the governance principles and scientific justifications behind various pandemic measures.

Our discussion covers a range of topics, including the principles of Bitcoin, its grassroots growth, and its potential as an alternative to the current banking system. One of the most fascinating aspects is how Bitcoin fosters personal accountability, encouraging individuals to take control of their financial futures.

Jesse is currently dedicated to educating and onboarding people to Bitcoin through his platform, The Bitcoin Mentor. He is also the author of Magic Internet Money: A Book About Bitcoin, which he self-published in 2020 with the goal of making Bitcoin easy to understand for everyone. You can get your copy at

Don't miss this discussion with Jesse Berger, where we'll delve deep into the world of Bitcoin and its implications for personal freedom and financial sovereignty. Join us for this episode and let's explore the transformative potential of Bitcoin together!

This podcast series is your guide to becoming a more informed and engaged citizen. It's a call to action for you to take an active role in maintaining the vitality of our democracy.

Connect with Eva Chipiuk:Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.chipiuk.ca⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X/Rumble/YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠@echipiuk⁠⁠⁠

Eva Chipiuk is not your typical lawyer. She holds a Bachelor Degree in Science, a Law Degree and a Masters of Law in Alternative Dispute Resolution. Eva has made a career representing David in the fight against Goliath. She has represented clients against large energy companies and the government. Her unique education and work experience has empowered her to represent clients and protect their rights in a unique and a more holistic way.

Eva believes that in order for Canadians to be familiar with their legal rights and political systems, they must become active members in the democratic process. On this podcast, “Dialogue Over Division”, the goal is to empower Canadians to learn and engage in meaningful conversations about democracy and how we can come together as a nation to make a difference.

Together we can work towards a brighter and more united Canada.

Welcome to another episode of Dialogue over Division. Today, we have the pleasure of hosting Dr. Marco Navarro-Génie, a distinguished academic and public policy expert with an extensive background in political science and history. Dr. Navarro-Génie holds degrees from Concordia University and the University of Calgary, where he earned his PhD. His academic focus spans radical revolutionary movements and cultural and political identity in Latin America.

In this episode, Dr. Navarro-Génie shares his journey from communist Nicaragua and what he learned growing up there, which drives his passion. We delve into his experiences on campus and the challenges he faced for holding his students to a high standard. We also discuss the importance of personal autonomy, his view that being "conservative" is a disposition rather than an ideology, and how this differs from "liberalism." Additionally, we explore the challenges of political partisanship and why it is important to get involved at a grassroots level.

We also speak to the book he co-authored, Canada's

Join us for a thought-provoking conversation with Dr. Marco Navarro-Génie as we explore these important issues and more on Dialogue over Division.

In this episode of "Dialogue over Division," we sit down with Bryce Wade of New World Precious Metals, a Canadian precious metals brokerage firm, to delve into the intricacies of our current financial systems. We explore the foundations of these systems, how governments depend on central banks, and the pivotal role of precious metals in the global financial landscape.

Bryce offers valuable insights into the historical context of these systems, emphasizing the enduring value of precious metals like gold and silver. Throughout history, these metals have proven to be reliable stores of value, and understanding their role can provide crucial lessons for personal financial responsibility.

We also discuss the importance of community preparedness and how individuals can take proactive steps to secure their financial futures. Understanding how our financial systems operate is critical to positioning ourselves effectively within them. Bryce highlights how having this knowledge empowers us to engage more effectively with the systems that shape our economic lives, ensuring we make informed decisions that safeguard our financial futures. He underscores the need for personal financial responsibility, especially in uncertain economic times, and how precious metals can provide stability during those periods.

If you're interested in learning more about the topics discussed or acquiring precious metals at New World Metals, please use this link: https://info.newworldpm.com/184.html.

This podcast series is your guide to becoming a more informed and engaged citizen. It's a call to action for you to take an active role in maintaining the vitality of our democracy.

Connect with Eva Chipiuk:

Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.chipiuk.ca⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

X/Rumble/YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠@echipiuk⁠⁠⁠

Eva Chipiuk is not your typical lawyer. She holds a Bachelor Degree in Science, a Law Degree and a Masters of Law in Alternative Dispute Resolution. Eva has made a career representing David in the fight against Goliath. She has represented clients against large energy companies and the government. Her unique education and work experience has empowered her to represent clients and protect their rights in a unique and a more holistic way.

Eva believes that in order for Canadians to be familiar with their legal rights and political systems, they must become active members in the democratic process. On this podcast, “Dialogue Over Division”, the goal is to empower Canadians to learn and engage in meaningful conversations about democracy and how we can come together as a nation to make a difference.

Together we can work towards a brighter and more united Canada.

Welcome to today's episode of 'Dialogue over Division' with Dr. Murray Bessette. Dr. Bessette earned a Ph.D. in political science and an M.A. in American government from Claremont Graduate University and an M.A. and B.A. in political science from the University of Alberta. He brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to our discussion, particularly in the realms of historical events, political movements, and the importance of educational initiatives.

Welcome to another episode of "Dialogue over Division." Today, we are joined by Fergus Hodgson, an independent economic consultant with an impressive background. Fergus is the former editor-in-chief of the PanAm Post and has served as the director of fiscal policy studies at the John Locke Foundation in North Carolina. He holds a BA in economics and a graduate diploma in political science.

In this episode, we delve into the critical importance of understanding government actions as self-interested individuals and how that impacts us both individually and as a nation. We examine how Ottawa-centric media has contributed to the distorted nature of information in the country. Throughout, Fergus emphasizes the significance of promoting personal sovereignty and the crucial role of civic engagement.

We also explore the factors that led to Canada's current state, including the events leading up to the 2022 trucker convoy—a pivotal moment when many Canadians reached their limits. Many viewed the COVID-19 mandates as the last straw amid rising living costs, indebtedness, taxes, and vanishing opportunities and civil liberties, uniting in the common cause against government overreach.

Recently, Fergus co-authored the book "Financial Sovereignty for Canadians," available on Amazon. This book, co-authored with Paz Gómez, assists those looking to take direct action and circumvent illiberalism. It details Canada's economic trajectory, explains how to protect your independence, and offers escapes from the status quo.

Join us for an enlightening conversation that sheds light on the economic and political dynamics shaping Canada today.

This podcast series is your guide to becoming a more informed and engaged citizen. It's a call to action for you to take an active role in maintaining the vitality of our democracy.

Connect with Eva Chipiuk:

Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.chipiuk.ca⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

X/Rumble/YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠@echipiuk⁠⁠⁠

Eva Chipiuk is not your typical lawyer. She holds a Bachelor Degree in Science, a Law Degree and a Masters of Law in Alternative Dispute Resolution. Eva has made a career representing David in the fight against Goliath. She has represented clients against large energy companies and the government. Her unique education and work experience has empowered her to represent clients and protect their rights in a unique and a more holistic way.

Eva believes that in order for Canadians to be familiar with their legal rights and political systems, they must become active members in the democratic process. On this podcast, “Dialogue Over Division”, the goal is to empower Canadians to learn and engage in meaningful conversations about democracy and how we can come together as a nation to make a difference.

Together we can work towards a brighter and more united Canada.