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  • a sleep study?!?!

    In this episode of dialoguing, Kaitlyn and her husband talk about the new season of Love is Blind: DC, the mystery of why we mindlessly do things in our leisure time as if they are obligations, the ways in which we pretend, and the magical nature of the Molly’s in our lives.

    We are on Apple Podcasts here and Spotify here. Feel free to listen and/or leave a review there as well!

    Time Stamps: (00:00-2:00) intro; (2:01-19:44) Love is Blind: DC chat; (19:45-25:20) meeting each other’s parents; (25:21-33:36) bed wars; (33:37-41:15) podcast shame spirals; (41:16-53:14) pretending; (53:15-55:48) bones + Yoto; (55:49-58:51) Birth story; (58:52-1:02:47) Molly; (1:02:48-1:08:47) postpartum; (1:08:48-end) outro

    Recent Newsletters: Nobody Wants This Recap #1 and #2, The Thing(s) I've Pretended to Love, and "Is this really happening?" (a birth story)



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    1 hr 11 min
  • sometimes there is a unicorn

    In this episode of dialoguing, Kaitlyn and her husband talk about the hiatus from this very podcast, just saying what you’re feeling, maths, Detroit sports, and we give each other the “ick.”

    We are on Apple Podcasts here and Spotify here. Feel free to listen and/or leave a review there as well!



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    58 min
  • that's not really working right now...

    In this episode of dialoguing, Kaitlyn and her husband talk about complaining, Ghostbusters and business (trust me, this will make sense), grief around summer, and our relationship to rest.

    We are on Apple Podcasts here and Spotify here. Feel free to listen and/or leave a review there as well!

    Show Notes:

    * Newsletters: "I didn't realize you were just having fun." & (shocker) trying too damn hard and too damn much backfired.

    * Article on being an island or a wave in attachment.

    * Tricia Hersey’s book, Rest Is Resistance: A Manifesto and interview on NPR



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    59 min
  • no snakes on this plane, no babies on this plane

    In this episode of dialoguing, Kaitlyn and her husband talk about the dance of spending time together versus apart in a relationship and how this can relate to long held fears of separation, parental guilt, their differences in chatting with strangers, and Kaitlyn pitches a potentially million dollar idea all within the backdrop of J trying to sell stuff on Facebook Marketplace.

    We are on Apple Podcasts here and Spotify here. Feel free to listen and/or leave a review there as well!

    Show Notes:

    * Newsletters: an invitation to get back to basics this summer ☀️ & The Emotional Symphony of Letting Myself Down



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    1 hr
  • these thoughts don't have to make sense

    In this episode, Kaitlyn, from the newsletter dialoguing, and her husband work through in real time an annoyed and overwhelmed part of Kaitlyn, a little inside baseball on the intro of the podcast and it’s name*, relationship to dancing, J’s very specific pet peeve, and fountain drink refill etiquette.

    We are on Apple Podcasts here and Spotify here. Feel free to listen and/or leave a review there as well!

    *You may have noticed we changed the name to match the newsletter’s moniker. As you’ll hear in the episode, there was some unease around referencing a bar as Kaitlyn is sober, as are many of her readers —and—also it’s a mouth full. Embracing simplicity and the sentiment that it’s never too late to make a change.

    Show Notes—

    * 2 Newsletters: What Are We Even Doing Here If We Aren’t Dancing? & I'm OK Being Known in Motherhood as a Lot of Things, but Don't Call Me Selfless



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    56 min
  • the best tears

    In this episode, Kaitlyn, from the newsletter dialoguing on Substack, and her husband, J, who actually prepared for today, discuss the last two newsletters, their relationship to crying, J shares a theory about why he was hit on at a concert, and if you stick around until the end you can hear Kaitlyn get super defensive.

    We are on Apple Podcasts here and Spotify here. Feel free to listen and/or leave a review there as well!

    Show Notes—

    * 2 Newsletters: saying the most (roundup) and This Must Be the Place (home + Chicago)

    * We both refer to things being “gendered” in this episode, but didn’t clarify what we mean by that. We mean socialization not that any traits or behaviors are inherent to any gender identity.



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    1 hr 8 min
  • yowza, bowza

    In this episode, Kaitlyn, from the newsletter dialoguing on Substack, and her husband discuss a horrifying discovery in their home this week and how it was handled, TSA issues, the concept of “home” and Kaitlyn effectively picks on J the whole episode.

    We are on Apple Podcasts here and Spotify here. Feel free to listen and/or leave a review there as well!

    Show Notes:

    * dialoguing newsletters: The One "No" That Made Space for Hundreds of Yeses (and counting) and Can We Never Really Go Home Again?

    * As I mentioned in the pod, Amara Amaryah’s perfectly titled The infantilization of kind people is a beautiful exploration of how we treat kind people.

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    59 min
  • Taylor Swift is the Detroit Lions as the Detroit Lions are Taylor Swift

    In this episode, Kaitlyn, from the newsletter dialoguing on Substack, and her husband explore personal fears underlying social anxiety, how they can form, and possible evolutionary influences. They also revisit a defensive interaction and the complexity of wanting your partner to go to the therapy.

    We are on Apple Podcasts here and Spotify here. Feel free to listen and/or leave a review there as well!

    Show Notes:

    Despite the premise of the show, we reflect on very few newsletters this time, but here are some that have come out since the last podcast was released, as well as one* that is relevant to our conversation around social anxiety.

    * 96 Thoughts This Therapist Had While Listening to THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT for the First Time

    * What Others Couldn’t See May Have Been The Truest Thing About Me

    * The Single Most Important Thing I Do For My Mental Health

    * What If We Just Did What We Could?

    * What If It's Actually Secure to Say You Feel Insecure?*



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    42 min
  • gravy, baby

    In this episode, Kaitlyn, from the newsletter dialoguing on Substack, and her husband discuss what they’ve been watching, what’s to come on the newsletter. Can’t believe I’m saying this but we also talk about birds…against Kaitlyn’s will.

    We are on Apple Podcasts here and Spotify here. Feel free to listen and/or leave a review there as well!

    Show Notes:

    * Last Two Newsletters: Say more (again) & Odds and Ends for an Odd Numbered Anni



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    59 min
  • walk the talk, or something like that

    In this episode, Kaitlyn, from the newsletter dialoguing on Substack, and her husband actually talk about the last 2 newsletters. A rarity. We talk about When/Then thinking, admitting when you feel shaky and the consequences of failing to do so, and are we calling people “lady” now?

    We are on Apple Podcasts here and Spotify here. Feel free to listen and/or leave a review there as well!

    Content warning: Discussions around parenting and explicit language.

    Show Notes:

    * Last Two Newsletters: What Spring Cleaning Could Tell You About Yourself and What If It's Actually Secure to Say You Don't Feel Secure

    * Theraplay



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    57 min

About dialoguing

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Welcome to dialoguing, a companion podcast to the newsletter of the same name on Substack, where an off-duty therapist speaks with her very much not a therapist husband as if there weren’t mics in front of their faces. Join us as we explore modern day mental health, marital and every day struggles, triumphs and everything in-between. Each episode dives deep into whatever is on our minds. Sometimes that is the newsletter and sometimes it’s burning questions from life. Whether you're a newbie to therapeutic concepts and vulnerability looking to better understand emotional intimacy, mental health, or relationships or you’re a therapist yourself this podcast can be a soft, less clinical landing to just talk about life and our feelings about it. Catch us, dialoguing every other Fridayish.