In this episode, we discuss the fitness and nutrition worlds and some of the misconceptions women have when striving for their ‘perfect body’. 
Julie Wilson Gordon came back to join us in a passionate chat about diet dogma and how it has almost become like a religion. We discussed some important issues about body image and the fact that there is no one-size-fits-all solution, as well as the importance of finding balance in your lifestyle. Julie shares her experience with oxalate poisoning from a strict vegan diet and how she recovered, and why she believes that a going vegan isn’t sustainable for the long-term. We chat about our shared love for a good, real donut or cupcake every once in a while, and our common hate for kale, as well as the benefits we’ve both found from following a flexible diet.