Writer, visual and performance artist, gobscure talks to Disability Arts Online's Editor, Colin Hambrook about psychiatry through the lens of the social model of disability. They discuss the power of language, the languages around mental health and how gobscure's writing has been influenced by that of historical writers such as Mary Wollstonecraft, Jessie Kesson, and John Clare, in telling stories about creative resistance. This podcast contains some strong language. A transcript of this podcast (in word format) is available to read or download at: https://disabilityarts.online/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Episode-2-gobscure-transcript.docx www.disabilityarts.online www.graeae.org Podcast edited by Ian Rattray for Clear Voice Enterprises. www.clearvoiceenterprises.org