In this episode, Greg Otto talks with Sunil Mallik, the CISO of Discover Financial Services. Sunil shares his career path and the evolving challenges and responsibilities in cybersecurity, covering how he communicates with his board, strategic approaches to cybersecurity, and the importance of balancing technological investment with personnel training.

In our reporter chat, Greg talks with Tim Starks about Sean Plankey being nominated for CISA director.

Editor's Note: At 13:42, Mallik misspoke about his former employer. He was previously employed by Freddie Mac, not Fannie Mae.