In this episode, Garrett and Bink bring back on Brennan and Emma to discuss grace and faith and how it ties into their growth in their relationship with Jesus. They start by discussing how they viewed grace growing up and how it affected their faith. They discuss that they grew up living by a set of rules rather than living in a relationship with Jesus. They finish by discussing the process of waking up to what the grace of really God is and how it is intertwined into their faith and works as a follower of Him.

References:
Matthew 14:22-33
Hebrews 11:1
James 2:14-26

Mark Batterson: The Circle Maker
https://www.markbatterson.com/books/the-circle-maker/