On this episode of Dishing on Divorce, Mandy and Deanna sit down with Lis Davies, CDFA®, and Jeff Matthews, CFP®, CDFA®, from the Arlington Group Investment Consulting in Columbus, Ohio, to explore the growing trend of divorce after 50.

With decades of experience and personal connections to divorce, Lis and Jeff bring both professional insight and lived understanding to this important conversation. They unpack the unique financial complexities that arise later in life, when couples may be nearing retirement, managing significant accumulated assets, and reimagining a future they once assumed would look very different.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Why divorce after 50 is on the rise

Lis and Jeff also share how they collaborate with attorneys, therapists, CPAs, and estate planners to support clients holistically during this life transition.

Connect with Lis and Jeff: https://fa.wellsfargoadvisors.com/The-Arlington-Group/index.html

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In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, we sit down with Jessica Breckenridge, Family Law Attorney and Co-Founder of Empower Family Law in Colorado, and a vetted Vesta professional in Vesta’s new Colorado Hub. Jessica shares how her early life in the foster care system and an adoption experience that went wrong shaped her passion for helping children and families. She also shares her experience of divorce during her first semester of law school, including a painful attorney intake call that strengthened her commitment to ensure clients feel informed, supported, and respected.

We discuss common misconceptions about hiring a divorce attorney, including the belief that lawyers automatically make divorce more adversarial, and explain why, in Colorado, good legal guidance can reduce conflict. Jessica breaks down full scope versus limited scope representation, why preparation matters, and how the right divorce team, including coaches, therapists, financial experts, and real estate professionals, can protect your peace and your future.

Jessica was recognized by the National Academy of Family Law Attorneys as one of Colorado’s Top 10 Under 40 for 2025.

Connect with Jessica

Email: [email protected]

Website: https://www.empowerfamilylegal.com/

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Note: This episode is for education only and is not legal advice. If you are experiencing domestic violence, coercive control, threats, or feel unsafe, please prioritize safety and reach out to local emergency services, a domestic violence hotline, or a trusted professional in your area.

In this soulful episode of Dishing on Divorce, Mandy Pullen Barr and Deanna Coyle sit down with love and intimacy coach, IFS psychotherapist, and Omega Institute faculty member Robyn Vogel.

Robyn shares how early loss and heartbreak shaped her life’s purpose and led her to help others heal, rebuild self-trust, and create lasting love. The conversation centers around her new book, Come Back to Love: A Path to Healing, and the Four Gates framework she uses to guide people through emotional healing, nervous system regulation, body-based healing, and soul-level perspective.

Listeners will hear:

Why abandonment wounds are so common after divorce

How the brain can be rewired to release limiting beliefs

Simple nervous system tools to calm overwhelm and anxiety

How love, compassion, and purpose can transform even the deepest pain

This episode is tender, insightful, and deeply human. It is for anyone healing from divorce or loss, or from old stories that no longer serve them, and for anyone ready to return to love.

📘 Come Back to Love releases February 9. Get your copy here: Order Your Copy.

Join us for her book launch party: https://bit.ly/MasterClassFeb9

In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, we sit down with Dr. Lee Baucom, marriage and relationship coach, author of seven books, and host of the Save the Marriage podcast with over 5.5 million downloads.

Dr. Baucom shares practical, compassionate guidance on how couples lose connection, why love alone is not enough to sustain a marriage, and what actually helps relationships heal. We explore when it makes sense to work on saving a marriage, when it may be healthier to move forward, and how to do both with clarity and without regret.

This conversation covers rebuilding connection, personal responsibility versus blame, limiting beliefs, and how the work you do on yourself impacts every relationship in your life, including co-parenting after divorce. A must listen for anyone questioning their marriage or wanting to show up differently in love and family life.

Learn more about Dr.Lee Baucom: https://leebaucom.com/

Check out his podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@SaveTheMarriageSystem

In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, Deanna Coyle sits down with certified divorce coach and pre-mediation coach Lyerly Spongberg to talk about how preparation can completely change the divorce experience.

Lyerly shares how her own high-conflict divorce led her to become the coach she once needed. She explains what divorce coaching is, how it is different from therapy, and why working with a pre-mediation coach can save time, money, and emotional energy.

They discuss:

What divorce coaching really is and who it is for

How pre-mediation coaching helps you walk into mediation prepared and confident

The biggest misconceptions about mediation

How to stay grounded and regulated during high-conflict conversations

Why keeping children at the center leads to better long-term outcomes

If you are considering divorce or preparing for mediation, this episode will help you understand your options and feel more empowered about your next steps.

Subscribe for more expert conversations on divorce, co-parenting, finances, and rebuilding life after divorce.

Connect with Lyerly: https://stepupwithlyerly.com/

Therapist, writer, and divorce support group leader Oona Metz joins Dishing on Divorce to talk about what so many women experience but rarely feel prepared for: the emotional journey of divorce.

With 30 years of clinical experience and 15 years specializing in divorce support, Oona shares why community matters, why the traditional grief model does not fully fit divorce, and how her Five Phases of Divorce Grief can help listeners feel less lost and more grounded. We also talk about language that increases shame, the hidden losses people grieve, and simple tools that regulate the nervous system when everything feels like too much.

Oona’s new book, Unhitched: The Essential Divorce Guide for Women, is a practical and compassionate companion packed with stories, exercises, resources, and real support for the road ahead.

Oona Metz, LICSW, CGP, is a therapist, writer, and speaker with 30 years of clinical experience. She specializes in supporting women+ through divorce and offers therapist-led divorce support groups, along with training for mental health clinicians through the Beacon Group Fellowship. Her private practice is based in Brookline and Arlington, Massachusetts.

Connect with Oona: https://www.oonametz.com/

Get Oona's book: https://www.amazon.com/Unhitched-Essential-Divorce-Guide-Women/dp/1668075385

A conversation about mediation, collaborative divorce, and healthier paths forward. On this episode of Dishing on Divorce, we’re joined by Debra Whitson, founder of Whitson Law and a vetted Vesta professional in New York. With more than 25 years of experience in divorce and family law, Debra has seen firsthand how litigation can deeply impact families—especially children. That experience led her to shift her work toward healthier, more intentional divorce pathways, including mediation and collaborative divorce.

Debra shares insight from her powerful resource, From the Kitchen Table to the Courthouse, and explains how the way a divorce begins can shape its emotional, financial, and relational outcomes long after it’s over.

In this episode, we discuss:

Why starting a divorce with blame often makes everything harder

The difference between kitchen-table divorce, mediation, collaboration, and litigation

When mediation is not appropriate—especially in cases involving power imbalances or safety concerns

Common myths about “telling your story” in court

The emotional and financial cost of prolonged conflict

How divorce impacts children and what parents can do to reduce harm

This episode provides practical guidance and a thoughtful perspective for anyone seeking a more informed, humane approach to divorce.

Resources mentioned:

From the Kitchen Table to the Courthouse – https://bit.ly/DebraWhitsonPDF

Divorce Like a Pro: A Better Way to Break Up –  https://whitsonlawfirm.com/divorce-like-a-pro/

Connect with Debra: https://whitsonlawfirm.com/

If you are experiencing domestic violence, coercive control, or feel unsafe, please reach out to local emergency services or a trusted support organization immediately.

In this powerful and deeply human episode of Dishing on Divorce, Deanna and Mandy sit down with Jodi Goodman, a longtime Vesta community member turned Concierge Specialist, to share her remarkable journey through divorce, healing, and transformation.

Jodi opens up about navigating two very different divorces, the emotional toll of starting over, and how finding the right support system changed everything. After discovering Vesta, she leaned into attending webinars during one of the hardest seasons of her life, Jodi found not only clarity and guidance—but a community that helped her rebuild her confidence, reclaim her voice, and move forward with intention.

Together, they explore:

What it truly feels like to go through divorce—and why support matters

How working with a coordinated team (attorney, coach, financial professional) can reduce chaos and overwhelm

The power of divorce coaching and having someone help you pause before reacting

How personal growth, self-awareness, and healing can emerge from even the most painful transitions

Why community, compassion, and connection are essential during life’s hardest chapters

Jodi also shares her own evolution—from client to trusted member of the Vesta concierge team—and how her lived experience allows her to support others with empathy, clarity, and deep understanding.

This episode is a heartfelt reminder that divorce doesn’t have to define you—and that with the right support, it can become the beginning of something stronger, healthier, and more aligned with who you truly are.

Listen in for honesty, laughter, and hope—and a reminder that you don’t have to walk this journey alone.

Connect with the concierge team: [email protected]

In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, Mandy and Deanna are joined by Danielle Konzelmann, Esq., a New Jersey family law attorney and mediator, and a Vesta-vetted professional in the New York / New Jersey Hub. With more than 20 years in family law, Danielle brings a calm, child-centered approach to high-conflict divorces, complex custody matters, and significant-asset cases—while firmly believing that divorce does not have to be nasty.

In this conversation, we cover:

Divorce process options in New Jersey, including mediation, collaborative divorce, and divorce from bed and board

Key differences between New Jersey and Massachusetts divorce laws

What truly drives high-conflict cases (financial control, restraining orders, complex assets, custody distrust)

Child support considerations in 50/50 parenting schedules

Why divorce is a marathon—not a sprint—and how perspective, pacing, and grace can lower conflict

Danielle also shares how her own childhood experience of divorce shaped her work and why keeping children at the center of the process can change outcomes for families long after the legal case ends.

A powerful reminder from this episode:

Connect with Danielle: [email protected]

Website:  https://www.konzlaw.com/

In this powerful and refreshingly honest episode of Dishing on Divorce, hosts Mandy Pullen Barr and Deanna Coyle sit down with renowned sexologist, integrative somatic trauma therapist, and author Zoë Kors to explore one of the most tender, transformative, and commonly misunderstood parts of life after divorce: reclaiming your sexuality.

Zoë —author of Radical Intimacy and resident Sex & Intimacy Coach at The Choral Lab—has spent decades helping women heal shame, reconnect with their bodies, and rediscover desire after major life transitions. Her work blends science, spirituality, trauma healing, and emotional intelligence, making her the perfect guide for this conversation.

Together, we dive into:

Why sexuality often shuts down during long-term marriages

What a “sexless marriage” does to emotional and physical intimacy

How cultural conditioning, religion, family messages, and early experiences create sexual shame

The impact of menopause, hormones, and midlife changes on libido

Navigating pornography and compulsive sexual behavior in relationships

The fears many people face about dating, vulnerability, and being seen naked again

What it truly means to build sexual confidence from the inside out

How somatic healing, trauma work, and self-intimacy can transform your future relationships

Zoë offers gentle, insightful pathways for healing—reminding listeners that nothing is broken and nothing is wrong. Whether you’re single, newly divorced, in the early stages of healing, or beginning to imagine intimacy again, this episode gives you the compassion, wisdom, and possibility you’ve been craving.

She also shares two beautiful quotes from Buddhist teacher Pema Chödrön, including the powerful reminder: “You are the sky. Everything else is just weather.”

This conversation is vulnerable, warm, surprising, and deeply needed. It’s a celebration of resilience, pleasure, and the courage to rediscover who you are. ✨ If this episode resonates, please subscribe and leave us a five-star review — your support helps others find hope, healing, and their path forward.

Connect with Zoë: https://www.zoekors.com/

Get Zoë's book: https://bookshop.org/p/books/radical-intimacy-cultivate-the-deeply-connected-relationships-you-desire-and-deserve