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Death doula and funeral celebrant Jill McClennen hosts Philadelphia-based medical historian Brandon Zimmerman to discuss his 2024 book, “Dissection Photography: Cadavers, Abjection, and the Formation of Identity,” about medical students (1880–1930) taking souvenir photos with cadavers and what the images reveal about coping with death through humor, ritual, and discomfort.
Brandon describes modern cadaver lab realities, including fainting, vomiting, sensory reactions, and students naming cadavers, and contrasts today’s mostly donation-based system with past body procurement through grave robbing and unclaimed bodies.
They explore ethical issues raised by a recent Pennsylvania grave robbing case tied to the oddities market, cemetery neglect, and stewardship, including how criminalizing ownership of human remains may drive the trade underground.
00:00 Faith Meets Dissection
02:24 Meet Brandon Zimmerman
03:56 Why Cadaver Photos Existed
04:57 Modern Lab Coping
07:30 Uncanny Dead Body Reactions
10:59 Preservation Changes Anatomy
13:47 Donations Versus Unclaimed
14:53 Naming the Cadavers
17:31 Recognizing Someone You Knew
19:57 Where Bodies Come From
20:59 Unclaimed Lives Honored
24:23 Cremains Lost in Neglect
28:01 Grave Robbing Returns
29:21 Student Dream Photos
32:17 Oddities Market Economics
35:20 Inside the Storage Locker
38:19 Can You Spot Stolen Bones
42:10 Cemetery Laws and Security
45:59 Wrap Up and Book Info
46:57 Grave Robbing History Deep Dive
https://www.instagram.com/brandozim/
https://www.amazon.com/Dissection-Photography-Cadavers-Abjection-Formation/dp/1529222184
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Death doula and funeral celebrant Jill McClennen hosts Philadelphia-based medical historian Brandon Zimmerman to discuss his 2024 book, “Dissection Photography: Cadavers, Abjection, and the Formation of Identity,” about medical students (1880–1930) taking souvenir photos with cadavers and what the images reveal about coping with death through humor, ritual, and discomfort.
Brandon describes modern cadaver lab realities, including fainting, vomiting, sensory reactions, and students naming cadavers, and contrasts today’s mostly donation-based system with past body procurement through grave robbing and unclaimed bodies.
They explore ethical issues raised by a recent Pennsylvania grave robbing case tied to the oddities market, cemetery neglect, and stewardship, including how criminalizing ownership of human remains may drive the trade underground.
00:00 Faith Meets Dissection
02:24 Meet Brandon Zimmerman
03:56 Why Cadaver Photos Existed
04:57 Modern Lab Coping
07:30 Uncanny Dead Body Reactions
10:59 Preservation Changes Anatomy
13:47 Donations Versus Unclaimed
14:53 Naming the Cadavers
17:31 Recognizing Someone You Knew
19:57 Where Bodies Come From
20:59 Unclaimed Lives Honored
24:23 Cremains Lost in Neglect
28:01 Grave Robbing Returns
29:21 Student Dream Photos
32:17 Oddities Market Economics
35:20 Inside the Storage Locker
38:19 Can You Spot Stolen Bones
42:10 Cemetery Laws and Security
45:59 Wrap Up and Book Info
46:57 Grave Robbing History Deep Dive
https://www.instagram.com/brandozim/
https://www.amazon.com/Dissection-Photography-Cadavers-Abjection-Formation/dp/1529222184
Support the show
Support the show financially by doing a paid monthly subscription. https://www.buzzsprout.com/2092749/support
Subscribe to Seeing Death Clearly and leave a 5-star review if you are enjoying the podcast.
Don’t forget to check out my free workbook Living a Better Life.
https://www.endoflifeclarity.com/end-of-life-planning to learn more about End of Life Care planning and schedule a free 30-minute call.
www.endoflifeclarity.com
Instagram
Facebook
Facebook group End of Life Clarity Circle
LinkedIn
TikTok

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