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  • 249. Naomi Rood on Homer's Odyssey

    In this episode, we welcome Dr. Naomi Rood to discuss Homer’s Odyssey. Consisting of around 12,100 lines of verse (separated into 24 books) and being around 2,700 years old, what is the Odyssey and why does it matter? We ask about authorship, composition – as well as how it connects and relates to the Iliad? What is some of the major themes of the poem? Taking us into the Proem (1.1-10), how does this give us insight into the heart of the epic, it’s emphasis on “man”, as well as the connection to the divine? What is xenia (or, hospitality), and why is it such a big deal in the moral world both assumed and taught in the poem? Listen in, as we land on Book IX of the Odyssey, and discuss how Homer – in the story of Odysseus and Polyphemus (the Cyclops) engages the question of what is civilization – as well as themes of humanity and the gods, Hesiodic Golden Age and their passing age, light and darkness, death and rebirth, metis (or cunning, intelligence) and bie (or physical strength). We also hear about the Homeric conception of the hero, as well as the contrast between Achilles and Odysseus. Teaching about home, and homecoming – as well as marriage and the deep partnership Odysseus has with Penelope, we ask Dr. Rood what many are missing if they are only interacting with the recently released movie. We end by asking about why this poem should matter, even today – as well as some encouragement for those who have yet to read this gift from the ancient Greeks.


    Two notes on the episode for clarification:

    • Pertaining to the issue of whether the Odyssey was written down with Athens primarily in mind, Dr. Rood did want the listener to hear about some scholarship that thinks so. However, to be clear: she does not think so - and views the Homeric Epics as more Panhellenic in their origin and purpose.
    • In the discussion about theoxenia - we failed to clearly point out that Athena does, in fact, appear in disguise on Ithaca - both in the form of Mentes and Mentor, etc. However, Dr. Rood's point in the discussion was that theoxenia doesn't seem to occur in order to explicitly test mortals on their morals, or xenia. For example, the disguised Athena doesn't test Telemachus on xenia (or "hospitality"), but rather encourages him to leave home and learn about his father Odysseus.


    Some resources by Dr. Rood:

    - “Implied Vengeance in the Simile of Grieving Vultures (Odyssey 16. 216-19)” (Classical Quarterly)

    - “Hesiod’s Metallurgy Simile (Th. 861-7)” (The Cambridge Classical Journal)

    - “Craft Similes and the Construction of Heroes in the Iliad” (Harvard Studies in Classical Philology)


    Check out translations by: Albert Cook, Robert Fagles (note the Introduction by Bernard Knox), Daniel Mendelsohn (also here), or Peter Green


    Other resources:

    Twelve Greeks and Romans Who Changed the World by Carl J. Richard

    Homeric Moments: Clues to Delight in Reading the Odyssey and the Iliad by Eva Brann

    The Best of the Achaeans by Gregory Nagy

    The World of Odysseus by M. I. Finley

    Homer and His Iliad by Robin Lane Fox

    Alexander at the End of the World by Rachel Kousser


    Check out Greg Lanier: “Can You Read Homer’s Odyssey in Ancient Greek?”; “First look at the fourth-century fragment of Odyssey Book 12”

    - “4th Century Fragment of the Odyssey Discovered in Utrecht University Library” (Sept. 14, 2026)


    The Odyssey of Political Theory by Patrick J. Deneen

    Who Killed Homer? by Victor Davis Hanson and John Heath

    The Odyssey in Athens by Erwin Cook

    Oxford Readings in Greek Religion, edited by Richard Buxton

    The Odyssey Effect by Erica Stevenson

    The Oxford Critical Guide to Homer’s Odyssey, edited by Joel P. Christensen


    Potentially relevant past episodes on Plato: here, here and here

    Potentially relevant past episodes on Irenaues of Lyons: here and here

    “Christian Allegoresis of the Odyssey?” by Jovana Sijakovic

    Homer: The Theologian by Robert Lamberton

    The Bow and the Lyre: A Platonic Reading of the Odyssey by Seth Benardete

    1 hr 42 min
  • 248. David Rathel on Andrew Fuller

    In this episode, we welcome Dr. David Mark Rathel to discuss his book Andrew Fuller and the Search for a Faith Worthy of All Acceptation: Exploring Fuller’s Soteriology in Its Historical Context. Who was Andrew Fuller (1754-1815), and why does he matter? One of the most important and impactful English Particular Baptist Ministers and Theologians, Fuller’s influence is often linked to The Baptist Missionary Society – as well as works such as Gospel Worthy of All Acceptation. Seen as responding to hyper-Calvinism in his time, Dr. Rathel takes us into the complex question of what indeed was the hyper-Calvinism of his time – as well as it’s historical origins and development. Originating with a matrix of English Puritanism, we are introduced to figures such as Tobias Crisp and Joseph Hussey as we see extreme anxiety over assurance of salvation lead to fundamental changes in the pactum salutis (covenant of redemption), Christology, as well as the limits of gospel proclamation. Over time, this anxiety shifts from issues of eternity into issues of “Adamic Inability” – yet consistently centered on concerns over gospel assurance and free grace. The cumulative weight of understanding the polemical and historical context of Fuller’s time contributes significantly to our clarity of why and how Fuller argues against the hyper-Calvinism of his time, while relying upon those who even held to some of the positions of the hyper-Calvinists of an earlier period of time. Yet, through all of the details of this impressive historical investigation comes many relevant questions for us today, including the place of assurance in our understanding – as well as whether or not preaching the necessity of all to exercise faith in Christ is to be guilty of legalism. What is the place of history in our understanding of both the history of redemption, as well as our own lives, when it comes to the salvation of God? We then end by asking Dr. Rathel about the true legacy of Andrew Fuller, and what that should mean for us today.


    Book: Andrew Fuller and the Search for a Faith Worthy of All Acceptation: Exploring Fuller’s Soteriology in Its Historical Context


    Gospel Worthy of All Acceptation by Andrew Fuller


    Other resources by Dr. Rathel:

    - Baptists and the Emerging Church Movement: A Baptistic Assessment of Four Themes of Emerging Church Ecclesiology

    - Lecture on Divine Simplicity


    Other resources:

    Reading Andrew Fuller; Rooted in the Word by Michael Haykin

    “Student Cracks theologian’s baffling religious code” (BBC)

    1 hr 9 min
  • 247. Michael Haykin on Particular Baptist History, Theology, and Tradition

    In this episode, we welcome Dr. Michael Haykin to discuss his book Rooted in the Word: Wisdom from the English Particular Baptists. Who are the Baptists, and what is both their place in a broader shared orthodoxy – as well as their core distinctives? With the “first clearly identifiable Particular Baptist church was founded in London in 1638”, Dr. Haykin takes us into the debates surrounding Baptist origins – as well as why he argues for their origins being found in “the matrix of English Puritanism”. How early do we see Baptist confessionalism, and how should we best understand how the Baptist confessions interacted with Baptist polity? Though there may have been some influence from the Westminster Confession of Faith upon the text of the Second London Baptist Confession, Dr. Haykin reminds us that the First London Baptist Confession of Faith was earlier than the Westminster Assembly. Listen in as we ask Dr. Haykin about some of the historic Baptist arguments for Baptist distinctive commitments to believers’ baptism, by immersion – as well as congregational polity. We also hear some highlights about men behind two of the famous hymns written by Baptists of the this early period: “Come, Thou Fount of Every Blessing” (written by Robert Robinson), and “Blest Be the Tie that Binds” (written by John Fawcett). We also hear some thoughts on the life and legacy of William Carey, “the father of the modern missions movement” – and the context of his work promoting more focus on spreading the Gospel of Grace throughout the world. We end with some of Dr. Haykin’s thoughts on how Baptists should appreciate both their place in a broader Christianity, as well as their own distinctive heritage and history.


    Book: Rooted in the Word: Wisdom from the English Particular Baptists


    Some other resources by Dr. Haykin:

    - Amidst Us Our Beloved Stands: Recovering Sacrament in the Baptist Tradition

    - Kiffin, Knollys and Keach: Rediscovering Our Baptist Heritage

    - Patrick of Ireland: His Life and Impact

    - A Thousand Beauteous Dyes: Toward a Reformed Theology of Color

    - Rediscovering the Church Fathers: Who They Were and How They Shaped the Church

    - The Spirit of God: The Exegesis of 1 and 2 Corinthians in the Pneumatomachian Controversy of the Fourth Century

    - The God Who Draws Near: An Introduction to Biblical Spirituality


    Past interviews: here, here and here

    Also check out: “’Emblem of the throng that praise the Lamb’: Learning from some English Particular Baptist Associations of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries”


    Hymns: “Come, Thou Fount of Every Blessing” and “Blest Be the Tie that Binds”


    Other resources:

    Trinity and Creation by Richard Barcellos

    Orthodox Radicals: Baptist Identity in the English Revolution by Matthew Bingham

    With Freedom Fired: The Story of Robert Robinson, Cambridge Nonconformist by Graham Hughes

    The English Baptists of the Seventeenth Century; The English Separatist Tradition: From Marian Martyrs to the Pilgrim Fathers by Barrington Raymond White

    The Tailor-King: The Rise and Fall of the Anabaptist Kingdom of Munster by Anthony Arthur

    1 hr 45 min
  • 246. Ed Romine on Elohim's Divine Complexity v. Yahweh's Divine Simplicity

    In this episode, we welcome back Dr. Ed Romine to discuss his article “Elohim v. Yahweh: Divine Complexity of the LDS Church Contra Divine Simplicity of Creedal Christianity”. What is the doctrine of Simplicity, and why does it matter? Is it biblical, is it creedal – and why have so many of the great Christian theologians affirm a robust articulation of the Triune God’s Simplicity? We then ask Ed about how this contrasts with the consistent LDS prophetic teaching of a “corporeal and complex” status of godhood – consistent with a cosmology based on eternally-existent matter and law. Comparing and contrasting the care, core commitments and articulation of one like Thomas Aquinas (in his Summa Theologica) versus LDS apostle Elder Charles Penrose (in a classic 1884 talk) – Ed takes us into what this reveals about the core differences between the doctrine of LDS authorities and those of Creedal Christianity, and why this matters. Whether God is Simple “without body, parts, or passions” – or is in part defined by the complexity of an exalted status of one’s body, parts, and passions leads to completely different definitions of what one means when they say they worship Jesus. Indeed, what one means when they say Jesus is God is at the core of the very definition of Christianity, itself.


    Book: A Faithful Steward: Essays in Honor of Richard C. Barcellos

    Check out First Baptist Church of Provo


    Some other resources by Dr. Romine:

    The Booming Baritone Bell of England: The Pedagogy and Practice of Charles Haddon Spurgeon’s Open-Air Preaching (hear interview here, here and here)

    - Also check out our past review of President Nelson’s April 2024 General Conference Talk


    Some other resources:

    Trinity and Creation by Richard Barcellos

    All That Is In God by James Dolezal

    Reformed Dogmatics by Herman Bavinck

    Summa Theologica by Thomas Aquinas

    The Last Superstition; Aquinas by Ed Feser

    Aquinas by F.C. Copleston


    “King Follett Discourse”; “Sermon in the Grove” by Joseph Smith (also here, here)

    President Brigham Young: JD 1. 238; 5.58

    President Wilford Woodruff: JD 19. 229

    President Lorenzo Snow: JD 14. 302

    “The Personality of God…” by Elder Charles Penrose

    “The Scriptures Speak” by Elder LeGrand Richards

    “The Living Christ” by Elder Bernard P. Brockbank

    1 hr 21 min
  • 245. Peter Gentry on The Mother of the Infant King, Isaiah 7:14

    In this episode, we welcome Dr. Peter Gentry to discuss the book, co-authored with Dr. Christophe Rico, The Mother of the Infant King, Isaiah 7:14: ‘alma and parthenos in the World of the Bible: A Linguistic Perspective. Isaiah 7:14, especially given the quotation in Matthew 1:23 – is considered one of the most controversial passages in the Old Testament. Translated traditionally as “virgin”, and yet in modern translations typically rendered “young woman” – what is the actual meaning of the world ‘alma and how do we know? Whether from arguments from etymology, to the argument of “duplicate use”, to the alleged counter-point in Proverbs 30:19, to even broad claims regarding Jewish tradition – Dr. Gentry takes us into each of these arguments, why they are made, and what is wrong with them. Focusing quite a bit on linguistic analysis, both of ‘alma and the Greek translation of “parthenos” – Dr. Gentry answers the question of whether or not Genesis 24:43 is a counter-point. What is the context of Isaiah 7, the textual evidence regarding Isaiah 7:14 specifically – and how does it tie into the larger context of Isaiah’s book as a whole? We then ask about whether or not the evangelist Matthew rightly reads and understands Isaiah 7:14 in his quotation in Matthew 1:23? Contrary to the modern consensus, Dr. Gentry explains to us some of why a close study of Isaiah suggests that the Prophet did actually predict a virgin birth in the distant future – and that Jesus of Nazareth does indeed fulfill that specific prophecy.


    Book: The Mother of the Infant King, Isaiah 7:14: ‘alma and parthenos in the World of the Bible: A Linguistic Perspective


    Other resources by Dr. Gentry:

    - “Does Isaiah Predict the Virgin Birth?”

    - How To Read and Understand the Biblical Prophets

    - Kingdom Through Covenant: A Biblical-Theological Understanding of the Covenants

    - Text History of the Greek Ecclesiastes

    - Check out the Hexapla Institute


    Other resources:

    Biblical Words and Their Meaning by Moises Silva

    Exegetical Fallacies by D.A. Carson


    The Virgin Birth of Christ by J. Gresham Machen

    - Check out our interview with Dr. Bernard Aubert about this book


    Scourby: Isaiah, Matthew, Luke


    LDS resources:

    1 Nephi 11:15, 18; Alma 7:10

    CFM Diagram

    “The Father and the Son” (Q15)

    Prophet-President Brigham Young: JD 1.46-53; 4.217-218; 8.115; 11.268

    Elder Heber C. Kimball: JD 8.211

    The Seer by Elder Orson Pratt (also JD 19.319)

    Jesus the Christ by Elder James Talmage

    Doctrines of Salvation (3 vol.’s) by President Joseph Fielding Smith (also here)

    Mormon Doctrine; Doctrinal New Testament Commentary (3 vol.’s); “The Mystery of Godliness” by Elder Bruce R. McConkie (also here, and here)

    1 hr 39 min
  • 244. Vern Poythress on Redeeming Philosophy

    In this episode, we welcome back Dr. Vern Poythress to discuss his book Redeeming Philosophy: A God-Centered Approach to the Big Questions. Starting with the question of what is philosophy – and contrasting the commitment to “wisdom” we find contrasted between Athens and Jerusalem. Calling for a redemption of philosophy, we ask Dr. Poythress about what is a distinctively Christian approach to philosophy. Indeed, is the Bible able to truly teach man philosophy? Writing “Genesis 1-2 provides foundational instruction to guide human learning about the world,” the Bible gives man a programmatic perspective, much larger than a shallow reading may catch. Along those lines, the fall of man into sin in Genesis 3 provides a crucial perspective into the mind of man – and it’s tendency toward the lust for autonomy, which comes in many various philosophical forms. What is the Problem of “the One and the Many”, and why don’t the approaches of brilliant thinkers such as Thales, Plato and Aristotle struggle to account for the unity and the diversity of the cosmos? Indeed, how may the Trinity actually provide a basis for both the unity and diversity in a way that avoids reduction and illusion? Why should Christians avoid the false alternatives of Idealism and Empiricism, or Modernism and Postmodernism? Listen in, as Dr. Poythress takes us through this and more – including a response to, with philosophy in mind, the question of how Christ Jesus is the wisdom of God, even “the way, the Truth, and the life”.


    Book: Redeeming Philosophy: A God-Centered Approach to the Big Questions


    Other resources by Dr. Poythress:

    - Redeeming Science: A God-Centered Approach (hear our previous interview here)

    - The Mystery of the Trinity: A Trinitarian Approach to the Attributes of God

    - Logic: A God-Centered Approach to the Foundation of Western Thought

    - Biblical Typology: How the Old Testament Points to Christ, His Church, and the Consummation

    - The Returning King: A Guide to the Book of Revelation

    - Making Sense of Man: Using Biblical Perspectives to Develop a Theology of Humanity

    - Mediator: A Biblical Theology

    - Redeeming Mathematic: A God-Centered Approach

    - Interpreting Eden: A Guide to Faithfully Reading and Understanding Genesis 1-3

    - In the Beginning Was the Word: Language: A God-Centered Approach


    Other resources:

    The Defense of the Faith by Cornelius Van Til (also here)

    The Doctrine of the Knowledge of God; The Doctrine of the Word of God by John Frame

    Biblical Critical Theory by Christopher Watkin

    Paul’s Two-Age Construction and Apologetics by William D. Dennison


    From Darwin to Hitler; Darwinian Racism by Richard Weikart

    From Every People and Nation: A Biblical Theology of Race by J. Daniel Hays (and here)

    American Awakening by Joshua Mitchell

    Check out our previous interviews about Colossians: here and here

    Check out our previous interviews about Plato: here, here and here


    Mind and Cosmos by Thomas Nagel

    Galileo’s Daughter by Dava Sobel

    Galileo Revisited by Dom Paschal Scotti

    Infinitesimal by Amir Alexander

    The Origin of Science and the Science of Its Origin; The Savior of Science by Stanley Jaki

    The Territories of Science and Religion; The Bible, Protestantism, and the Rise of Natural Science; The Fall of Man and the Foundations of Science by Peter Harrison

    Personal Knowledge by Michael Polanyi


    Scourby: 1 Corinthians

    Plato’s Euthyphro (and here, here)


    LDS sources mentioned:

    D&C 93; Abraham 3, 4

    Founding Prophet/President Joseph Smith’s “King Follett Discourse”; “Sermon in the Grove” (also here, here, here – and here, here, here)

    A Rational Theology; Joseph Smith as Scientist by Elder John A. Widtsoe

    “Nature of Man” (July 3, 1859) by President/Prophet Brigham Young (also JD 7.277)

    “Our Great Potential” (April 1977) by President Spencer W. Kimball

    2 hr 15 min
  • 243. Andrew Malone on Biblical Priesthood

    In this episode, we welcome Dr. Andrew S. Malone to discuss his book God’s Mediators: A Biblical Theology of Priesthood. What is the Priesthood, according to the Bible? Moreover, what is a priest – and how do we understand their “two-way role”? Even in the era of Moses, how do we understand Exodus 19:6 relative to the Aaronic Priesthood being introduced later in Exodus 28? What was the Aaronic Priesthood – and how does it relate and overlap with the Levites? What was their origins – and what are some thoughts on the distinctive nature of Israelite priesthood, as well as the how we better understand the change in what we see of priestly activity across the Old Testament? Who was the High Priest, what was his relation to Moses, his distinctive attire – and his unique role and responsibility in the cult of Israel? Listen in as Dr. Malone takes us into this, and more as we hear about how we should balance the significant continuity and discontinuity across the Bible. Was Jesus of Nazareth a (High) Priest, and how should we understand that relative to his authority as presented in the New Testament? Taking us into the rich theology of the Epistle to the Hebrews, we ask Dr. Malone how to best understand the parallel and substantive connection of the relationship of the Aaronic Priest and corporate Israel – as well as Christ Jesus and the church, both aiding us in seeing the identity and work of Christ our Priest, as well as better understanding the priesthood of all believers in regard to both the church, and the world.


    Book: God’s Mediators: A Biblical Theology of Priesthood


    Some other resources by Dr. Malone:

    - To Walk and To Please God: A Theology of 1 and 2 Thessalonians

    - Knowing Jesus in the Old Testament?: A Fresh Look At Christophanies


    - “John Owen and Old Testament Christophanies” (Reformed Theological Review)

    - “God The Illeist: Third-Person Self-References and Trinitarian Hints in the Old Testament” (Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society)

    - “Drawing Near to God: Spatial Metaphors for Salvation” (Southern Baptist Journal of Theology)

    - “Acceptable Anachronism in Biblical Studies” (The Bible Translator)


    Other resources:

    “Roman Catholic Theology and Practice of the Priesthood Contrasted with Protestant Theology and Practice of the Priesthood” by Rachel Ciano and and Gregg Allison

    The Royal Priest: Psalm 110 in Biblical Theology; “You are a Priest Forever: Psalm 110 and the Melchizedekian Priesthood of Christ” by Matthew Emadi

    Who Shall Ascend the Mountain of the Lord?: A Biblical Theology of the Book of Leviticus; “The Levitical Priesthood” by L. Michael Morales

    Jesus The Priest by Nicholas Perrin

    The Temple and the Church’s Mission; Colossians (BECNT) by G.K. Beale

    “A Critical Examination of the Roman Catholic Definitions of Dulia and Latria” by Lauren Montenegro



    LDS resources:

    D&C 20; 42; 68; 84; 107; 121; 124; 132; Articles of Faith 1.5

    True to the Faith: A Gospel Reference

    Gospel Principles

    A Rational Theology; Evidences and Reconciliations; Priesthood and Church Government by Elder John A. Widtsoe


    The Words of Joseph Smith:

    - At one place, Smith distinguishes between Melchizedek and the “Aaronic or Levitical” priesthoods (p. 38-39). Yet, at other places, Smith distinguishes between “Aaron, Abraham, and Melchizedek” – Levitical, Abraham’s “patriarchal power”, and the “three grand orders of priesthood” as “the King of Shalom”, “patriarchal authority”, and Levitical. (pp. 244-246) – (also here, here, here); “King Follett Discourse”; “Sermon in the Grove” (also here, here)


    “Priesthood is the means to exaltation. The priesthood is the power and authority of God delegated to man on earth to act in all things pertaining to the salvation of men. It is the means whereby the Lord acts through men to save souls. Without this priesthood power, men are lost. Only through this power does man ‘hold the keys of all the spiritual blessings of the church,’ enabling him to receive ‘the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, to have the heavens opened’ unto him (see D&C 107:18-19), enabling him to enter the new and everlasting covenant of marriage and to have his wife and children bound to him in an everlasting tie, enabling him to become a patriarch to his posterity forever, and enabling him to receive a fullness of the blessings of the Lord.” - President Spencer W. Kimball, Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, p.494; “Our Great Potential” (also here)


    President Brigham Young: JD 2.179-191; 3.191-196; 4:77; 7.201-206; 9:86-93, 279-281; 12.56-64; 16.185-189; 17.113-115, 19.45-50

    President John Taylor: JD 2.40-41; 19.51-57; 21.358-372; 22.193-204 (also here – as well as The Goverment of God)

    Gospel Doctrine by President Joseph F. Smith

    The Way to Perfection; Doctrines of Salvation (3 vol.’s) by President Joseph Fielding Smith

    “The Cornerstone of Our Faith” by President Gordon B. Hinckley

    “Honoring the Priesthood”; “The Price of Priesthood Power” by President Russell M. Nelson (also here)


    Elder Parley P. Pratt: JD 1:256-263

    Elder Orson Hyde: JD 8.19-26

    Elder Orson Pratt: JD 20:144-145

    Elder George Q. Cannon: JD 25.288-295; 25.295-298; 26. 241-253

    Elder Erastus Snow: JD 19:278-279

    “What Every Elder Should Know – and Every Sister as Well: A Primer on Principles of Priesthood Government” by Elder Boyd K. Packer

    “Blessings of the Priesthood” by Elder Robert D. Hales

    “Honor the Priesthood and Use it Well” by Elder Richard G. Scott

    The Truth, The Way, the Life by (Seventy) B. H. Roberts


    Priesthood Blessings; Priests of the Most High God by Donald Goff

    Lost Legacy: The Mormon Office of Presiding Patriarch by Irene M. Bates and E. Gary Smith; also check out my interview with Bradley Campbell on the LDS Presiding Patriarch

    “Gospel Trilogy” – “Meaning of the Atonement” (or here) by Cleon Skuosen

    Early Mormonism and the Magic World View by D. Michael Quinn

    The Refiner’s Fire by John Brooke

    The Power of Godliness by Jonathan Stapley


    Also check out the coverage by Dr. Kyle Beshears in ch.’s 18 and 19 of 40 Questions About Mormonism

    1 hr 36 min
  • 242. Michael Glodo on the Aaronic Blessing: Numbers 6:22-27

    In this episode, we welcome The Reverend Michael J. Glodo to discuss his book The Lord Bless You and Keep You: The Promise of the Gospel in the Aaronic Blessing. Found in Numbers 6:22-27, what is the Aaronic Blessing and why does it matter? Landing on the themes and threads of blessing and keeping, of the Lord’s “face” and presence, as well as the purpose and eschatology of the peace promised in this incredibly rich passage of Scripture. Going back to the beginning, even in the Biblical account of the creation of man in the image and likeness of God, we see the purpose of man’s face – and in the Fall, we see man’s face marred in rebellion, guilt and sin. As he writes: “The story that precedes the blessing of God’s gracious gaze is one of the people seeing, avoiding, longing for, and catching a glimpse of the face of God.” Taking us through “the story of faces”, Rev. Glodo takes us through some highlights of the “long-running story” within which the Aaronic Blessing both takes part and points toward as we eventually see the face of God revealed in Jesus Christ. Not only do we see the storyline and the theology of Scripture exemplified in the Aaronic Blessing, but we can also learn much about the worship of God by his covenant people. Indeed, what is a benediction, and how is it a distinct and essential part of worship, both for Israel of old – and the church today? Listen in as Rev. Glodo gives us a tour of the tapestry of all the Aaronic Blessing has to offer God’s people, even today.


    Book: The Lord Bless You and Keep You: The Promise of the Gospel in the Aaronic Blessing


    Other resources by The Reverend Michael J. Glodo:

    Sermon: “God’s Gracious Gaze” (Numbers 6.22-27)

    Video: “What is the place of prayer in worship?”

    Check out Rev. Glodo’s Website

    Also, check out St. Paul’s Presbyterian Church

    - “The Church in the Old Testament” (Westminster Society Journal)

    - “Sola Ecclesia: The Lost Reformation Doctrine”

    - “Covenant Sign and Seal: The Symbolic Significance of Circumcision and Its Application to the New Testament Believer” (also Part Two)


    Other resources:

    Till We Have Faces by C.S. Lewis

    Metaphors We Live By by George Lakoff and Mark Johnson

    Mere Christian Hermeneutics by Kevin J. Vanhoozer

    Leading in Prayer; The Shaping of the Reformed Baptismal Rite in the Sixteenth Century; Holy Communion in the Piety of the Reformed Church by Hughes Oliphant Old

    A Way to Pray by Matthew Henry

    God is the Gospel by John Piper

    Union with the Resurrected Christ by G.K. Beale


    Second Helvetic Confession, chapter 18

    E.g. OPC Book of Church Order


    Charles Wesley: “Come, O Thou Traveler Unknown” (audio clip: Washington Choral Arts Society)

    Scourby: Numbers, Genesis

    Also check out the Ketef Hinnom Amulets


    LDS Clips:

    News: here, here and here

    Founding Prophet Joseph Smith: JSH-1 (and here); also, here

    President Brigham Young: JD 10.230-31

    Elder Orson Pratt: The Seer, p.255

    Elder George Q. Cannon: Gospel Truth, p.324

    Elder Bruce R. McConkie: “Our Relationship with the Lord” (also, here)

    Elder LeGrand Richards: “Strange Creeds of Christendom”

    President Gordon B. Hinckley: “We Look to Christ”

    Elder Jeffrey R. Holland: “The Only True God and Jesus Christ Whom He Hath Sent” (also, here and here)


    For more discussion of the LDS doctrine of The Great Apostasy – please check out this interview. 

    1 hr 57 min
  • 241. Matthew Emadi on Romans 4:1-5:9

    In this episode, we welcome back Dr. Matthew Emadi to continue to discuss Paul’s Epistle to the Romans. Listen in as Dr. Emadi takes us on a tour of one of the most important and insightful texts of Scripture, as the apostle Paul proclaims “the Gospel of God” for all who will hear. This installment will cover Romans 4:1-5:9.


    Please read (and even listen) to Romans (ESV, KJV).

    Hear our previous episode on Romans 1-3 here.


    Check out Christ Covenant Church Utah and the Salt Lake School of Theology


    Other resources by Dr. Emadi:

    The Royal Priest: Psalm 110 in Biblical Theology

    “You are a Priest Forever: Psalm 110 and the Melchizedekian Priesthood of Christ”

    “The Fulfillment of the Land Promise In the Epistle to the Hebrews: A Critique of Dispensationalism”


    What Is a Church?; How Can I Serve My Church?

    “The Leper’s Cleansing and Our Salvation” (TGC)

    “What Do Mormons Believe About God” (TGC)


    Check out past episodes with Dr. Emadi:

    “Melchizedek and his Priesthood”

    “The Church”

    “John 14:28: ‘for the Father is Greater than I’”

    “The Temple”


    Other resources:

    The Apostolic Preaching of the Cross by Leon Morris

    Uncovering the Theme of Revelation in Romans 1:16-3:26 by Marcus Mininger

    “Indicative and Imperative: The Basic Structure of Pauline Ethics” by William Dennison


    The Pauline Eschatology; Biblical Theology by Geerhardus Vos

    Father, Son, and Spirit in Romans 8: The Roman Reception of Paul’s Trinitarian Theology by Ron C. Fay

    Thanksgiving: An Investigation of a Pauline Theme by David Pao

    The Difficult Doctrine of the Love of God; “God is Love and He Doesn’t Need Us” by D. A. Carson


    Cracking the Foundation of the New Perspective on Paul by Robert Cara

    Perspectives Old and New on Paul; Justification Reconsidered; Understanding Paul; Romans: Text, Readers, and the History of Interpretation by Stephen Westerholm

    Paul: Apostle of the Heart Set Free by F. F. Bruce

    By Faith, Not By Sight by Richard Gaffin

    Paul: An Outline of His Theology by Herman Ridderbos


    Original Sin: Illuminating the Riddle by Henri Blocher

    The Cross and the Prodigal; Jesus Through Middle Eastern Eyes by Kenneth Bailey

    American Awakening by Joshua Mitchell (also, here)

    Alexander at the End of the World by Rachel Kousser

    Augustine of Hippo: His Life and Impact by Bradley Green



    Joseph Smith Translation, Romans 4; “David”

    Gospel Doctrine by President Joseph F. Smith; D&C 138

    The Miracle of Forgiveness by President Spencer W. Kimball

    1 hr 51 min
  • 240. Lane Tipton on The Trinitarian Theology of Cornelius Van Til

    In this episode, we welcome Dr. Lane Tipton to discuss his book The Trinitarian Theology of Cornelius Van Til. Who was Cornelius Van Til (1895-1987), and why does he matter? A Reformed thinker, theologian, and philosopher – Tipton writes that Van Til was “one of the most profound theological minds of the past century”, consistently committed to the Creator-creature distinction – and opposing all forms of “mutualism” wherein “God, the Creator, participates in the change of the creature or that the creature participates in the essence of the Creator.” Integrating both Old Princeton and Old Amsterdam – Dr. Tipton takes us through the standard Trinitarian language and grammar Van Til shares with what came before, including John Calvin’s Autothean Conception of the Eternal Person of the Son. Distinguishing between The Son Simpliciter (or the Son “as a distinct personal subsistent who is the underived and uncommunicated essence of God”) and The Son Filiatio (or the Son “considered in relation to the Father in the processional relation”, i.e. being begotten of the Father), we ask Dr. Tipton why this distinction is important for clarity and consistency in understanding the Triune God. Was Van Til novel, or so distinct in his articulation of the Trinity as to be inconsistent or contrary to the Westminster Confession of Faith, or any other significant creedal or confessional heritage? We ask Dr. Tipton specifically about Van Til’s quotation about God being “numerically one” or “one person” – and hear the context of Van Til’s affirmation of God as “absolute personality” in the context of debates over the Boston Personalism (of scholars such as Edgar Sheffield Brightman and A.C. Knudson) as well as the rationalism of Gordon Clark. What is the “deeper protestant conception”, both of God and of man – and how does it compare and contrast with the “deeper Roman Catholic conception” of Thomas Aquinas – and why does this matter in terms of any attempt at ressourcement and retrieval from Christian tradition? Does “anthropomorphism” in the Bible undermine our claims that this theology is derived from Scripture? What about the claims of “bad fruit” (based on some of the work and behavior of people who claim Van Til as an influence) evidencing the need to avoid his work? We end the interview asking what should be understood as the real legacy of Cornelius Van Til, and why does it matter today.


    Book: The Trinitarian Theology of Cornelius Van Til


    Other resources by Dr. Tipton:

    - “Resurrection, Proof, and Presuppositionalism: Acts 17:30-31” (also here)

    - “Paul’s Christological Interpretation of Creation and Presuppositional Apologetics”

    - “Christology in Colossians 1:15-20 and Hebrews 1:1-4: An Exercise in Biblico-Systematic Theology”

    - “The Archetypal Image in Colossians 1:15: Theological Implications”


    - Foundations of Covenant Theology: A Biblical-Theological Study of Genesis 1-3 (also here)

    - Union with Christ: The Benefits of His Suffering and Glory (also here)

    - Introduction to the Theology and Apologetics of Cornelius Van Til (also here)


    - Reformed Forum: Vos Group; Van Til Group

    - “Van Til’s Trinitarian Theology”

    - “The Trinitarian Theology of Thomas Aquinas”

    - “Van Til’s Doctrine of Revelation”

    - “Van Til and Idealism”


    Red Grace Media: “Anthony Burgess, Original Righteousness, and Deeper Protestant Conception”; “Anthony Burgess, Infused Grace, and Nature and Grace in the Reformed Tradition”

    Also check out: “Covenant Theology and Eastern Orthodoxy”


    (Some) Resources by Cornelius Van Til:

    The Defense of the Faith

    An Introduction to Systematic Theology

    Survey of Christian Epistemology

    A Christian Theory of Knowledge

    Common Grace and the Gospel

    Christianity and Barthianism


    Also check out: The Problem of Evil (as well as our interview with Dr. Dennison here)


    Other resources:

    The Institutes of the Christian Religion by John Calvin

    The Westminster Confession of Faith, Chapter 2


    Cornelius Van Til: Reformed Apologist and Churchman by John Muether

    Van Til’s Apologetic; Always Ready by Greg Bahnsen


    Reformed Dogmatics; Grace and Glory by Geerhardus Vos

    Geerdhardus Vos: Reformed Biblical Theologian, Confessional Presbyterian by Danny Olinger

    Calvin and Calvinism, Volume 5 in The Works of Benjamin B. Warfield (also here)

    Reformed Dogmatics (4 vol.’s) by Herman Bavinck


    All That is in God by James Dolezal

    God’s Time For Us: Barth’s Reconciliation of Eternity and Time in Jesus Christ by James Cassidy

    Paul’s Two-Age Construction and Apologetics; In Defense of the Eschaton by William Dennison

    God, Language and Scripture by Moises Silva

    Christianity and Liberalism by J. Gresham Machen (also here and here)

    Bearing the Cross; “The Intellectual Development of Martin Luther King, Jr.: Influences and Commentaries” by David Garrow (hear our interview here, and here)


    Engaging Thomas Aquinas: An Evangelical Approach; “‘The Clay of Paganism with the Iron of Christianity’: Cornelius Van Til’s Critique of Roman Catholicism”; A Christian Pocket Guide to Mary: Mother of God? by Leonardo De Chirico

    The Trinitarian Theology of St. Thomas Aquinas by Gilles Emery, OP

    The Natural Desire to See God by Lawrence Feingold

    Bound for Beatitude: A Thomistic Study in Eschatology and Ethics by Reinhard Hutter

    The Glory of God’s Grace: Deification According to St. Thomas Aquinas by Daria Spezzano


    LDS sources:

    “Our Great Potential” (April 1977) by President Spencer W. Kimball

    Founding Prophet/President Joseph Smith’s “King Follett Discourse”; “Sermon in the Grove” (also here, here, here – and here, here, here)

    A Rational Theology; Joseph Smith as Scientist by Elder John A. Widtsoe

    “Nature of Man” (July 3, 1859) by President/Prophet Brigham Young

    2 hr 26 min

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