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In this episode, we welcome back Dr. Michael Haykin to discuss his book Patrick of Ireland: His Life and Impact. Who was Patrick of Ireland, and why does he matter today? What is the real history of Patrick, and what was the core of his theology? In this episode, Dr. Haykin takes us through some of the life and times of this great saint – as well as highlights from his Confession. What was the Christianity that Patrick received and then introduced and passed on to the people of Ireland? A robust Trinitarian in every aspect of his theology, the church today has much it can learn from Patrick – including his courage and dedication to missions in a time of global instability.
Book: Patrick of Ireland: His Life and Impact
Other books by Dr. Haykin:
Other resources:
In this episode, we welcome Dr. Nicholas Perrin to discuss his article “The Temple, A Davidic Messiah, and a Case of Mistaken Priestly Identity (Mark 2:26)”. What is “the Abiathar Problem”, and what are people missing who use this passage to assume the evangelist Mark (or even Jesus, Himself) made a mistake? Dr. Perrin takes us through the “mystery” of Abiathar’s appearance in Mark 2.26 and demonstrates not only that this wasn’t the mistake that people have assumed, but is an opportunity to observe a deep set of insights into who this Jesus is, and who His disciples are being made into. What has Jesus’ argument, including his naming of Abiathar, have to do with who the Messiah is and his connection to the Temple? Who is this Jesus, Son of David – the Son of God?
Article: “The Temple, A Davidic Messiah, and a Case of Mistaken Priestly Identity (Mark 2:26)”
Some books written by Dr. Perrin:
Check out: Corinth Reformed Church
Check out: “The Gospel of Jesus’ Wife and the ‘Historical’ Jesus”
In this episode, we welcome Dr. Samuel Emadi to discuss his book From Prisoner to Prince: The Joseph story in biblical theology. Sam takes us through highlights of the Joseph Story (Genesis 37-50), and its place in Genesis, as a whole. Moreover, how was the Joseph Story used by the Lord in the Parable of the Tenants and in Stephen’s Speech? Why did the early Christians so clearly see Joseph as a type of Christ – and few modern scholars see any connection? Sam also answers the question of how we make sure our (the reader’s) seeing of biblical “types” is objective and truly derived from the text rather than subjective and imposed upon them.
Book: Prisoner to Prince: The Joseph story in biblical theology
Podcast: Bible Talk
“What the Joseph Story is Really About” (TGC)
Hunsinger Lane Baptist Church (Louisville, Kentucky)
Also check out article: “The Religion that Reads (but Doesn’t Respect) The Bible”
“What Designates a Valid Type? A Christotelic, Covenantal Proposal” by David Schrock
The Surprising Genius of Jesus: What the Gospels Reveal about the Greatest Teacher by Peter Williams
Figuring Resurrection: Joseph as a Death and Resurrection Figure in the Old Testament and Second Temple Judaism by Jeffrey Pulse
On Joseph Smith changing the text of Genesis 50, including writing in a prophecy of himself, with no evidence other than his own asserted authority: see here and here.
In this episode, we interview Dr. Loren Pankratz about his article “Was Joseph Smith a Monarchotheist? An Engagement with Blake Ostler’s Theological Position on the Nature of God”. Loren takes us through how LDS philosopher Blake Ostler is not only making theological claims, but historical claims regarding Joseph Smith’s theology – some of which are at odds with the plain reading and more mainstream interpretation of Smith’s King Follet Discourse and Sermon in the Grove. How far did Joseph Smith go in his teaching of a plurality of gods, the nature of god(s), the eternal progression of man, and his re-writing of Genesis 1:1?
Article: “Was Joseph Smith a Monarchotheist? An Engagement with Blake Ostler’s Theological Position on the Nature of God” (Dialogue, Volume 55, No. 2)
King Follett Discourse (also here)
The Sermon in the Grove (also here)
Key to the Science of Theology by Elder Parley P. Pratt
A Rational Theology; Joseph Smith as Scientist by Elder John A. Widtsoe
The Truth, The Way, The Life by B.H. Roberts
Wrestling the Angel; "Joseph Smith and the Forging of Community" by Terryl Givens
In this episode, we interview Dr. Thomas G. Alexander about his book John A. Widtsoe: Scientist and Theologian, 1872-1952. We cover some basics of Widtsoe’s biography, including a prestigious career as a scientist and public administrator - in addition to being an LDS Apostle who wrote a lot about LDS doctrine and practice. What was Widtsoe’s contributions in Mormon history and thought – and what are the implications for today?
“What is Man?” by John A. Widtsoe (October 1936 General Conference)
Book: John A. Widtsoe: Scientist and Theologian, 1872-1952 by Thomas Alexander
Other books and articles by Dr. Alexander:
Works by Elder John A. Widtsoe:
See specifically, e.g. book V – including essays such as “What is the True Meaning of Salvation?” and “What is the Meaning of Atonement?” (also here)
"Seven Deadly Heresies" by Elder Bruce R. McConkie
Thanks to Aaron Shafovaloff for pointing out this November 8, 1919 statement of Christian ministers pointing out the “untrue statements” pertaining to kidnapping, trafficking and slavery.
In this episode, we welcome Virgil Walker, Vice President of Ministry Relations for G3 Ministries, to discuss his article: “The Truth Behind MLK’s Social Gospel”. Virgil takes us through highlights of MLK’s views of essential doctrines of the Christian Faith. What do the primary sources, written by MLK himself, reveal about his views of God, Scripture, Jesus Christ, the Virgin Birth and Resurrection – and Salvation? Given the weight of MLK’s legacy today, how do we affirm the need for racial reconciliation while not compromising on the essentials of the Christian Faith? Virgil also shares with us some of his story, his decision to write on this subject (and the response), and his thoughts on MLK’s true legacy.
Articles by Virgil:
“The Truth Behind MLK’s Social Gospel”
“Deconstructing the MLK Myth”
“What’s the Truth about Martin Luther King, Jr.?”
“A Letter to Black Pastors”
G3 Ministries
Just Thinking Podcast
Check out Virgil’s recent book, with co-host and co-author Darrell Harrison: A Biblical Theology of Climate Change
See: Martin Luther King, Jr. Papers Project
Some highlights from the MLK, Jr. Papers Project:
The Seminarian: Martin Luther King Jr. Comes of Age by Patrick Parr
Bearing the Cross: Martin Luther King, Jr., and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference; The FBI and Martin Luther King, Jr. by David J. Garrow
See also these articles by David J. Garrow:
- “Zepp and Smith give a fair and balanced, if at times incomplete, portrayal of the major intellectual traditions upon which Martin King drew. They rightly suggest that it was King’s three years at Crozer Theological Seminary (1948-1951), much more so than either his undergraduate experience at Morehouse College (1944-1948) or his graduate years at the Boston University School of Theology (1951-1954), that witnessed King’s academic maturation and the development of a first-rate intellectual curiosity and self-testing. Nonetheless, while surveying the contributions that evangelical liberalism and the social gospel, Gandhian nonviolence, Niebuhrian realism and Boston University’s personalism all made to King’s development, Zepp and Smith do not adequately appreciate how King’s evaluation and partial adoptions of different intellectual doctrines were profoundly rooted in his social presuppositions and faith experience. Those presuppositions and experiences were themselves the product of King’s upbringing in a family and a church that inculcated the biblical stories, especially for this son and grandson of preachers, and that fully represented the strong faith heritage of the black southern Baptist church.”
Some books that influenced MLK:
American Awakening: Identity Politics and Other Afflictions of Our Time by Joshua Mitchell
From every People and Nation by J. Daniel Hays
From Shame to Sin by Kyle Harper
A Stone of Hope by David Chappell
Voice of Deliverance: The Language of Martin Luther King, Jr. and Its Sources by Keith Miller
Search for the Beloved Community: The Thinking of Martin Luther King, Jr. by Kenneth Smith and Ira Zepp, Jr.
Origins of the Dream: Hughes's Poetry and King's Rhetoric by W. Jason Miller
Doctrine and Race by Mary Beth Swetnam Mathews
The Social Gospel in American Religion by Christopher Evans
The Last Segregated Hour: The Memphis Kneel-Ins and the Campaign for Southern Church Desegregation; Noah’s Curse: The Biblical Justification of American Slavery by Stephen R. Haynes
In this episode, we finish our interview with Dr. David J. Garrow, distinguished historian and Pulitzer Prize winning author of Bearing the Cross: Martin Luther King, Jr., and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. In this interview, we ask Dr. Garrow about what led him to write the biography of MLK – and what went into his incredible research, including his expertise in FBI documents. We discuss the ecclesiastical context of King and the Civil Rights movement and why the FBI began tracking MLK – as well as some of the more troubling parts of the life of King. We discuss parts of his 2019 article and what people are missing who dismiss some of this evidence. Join us as Dr. Garrow helps us think through how to understand King, in his context.
Dr. David Garrow’s website
Some books by Dr. Garrow:
Some articles by Dr. Garrow:
Other resources:
King: A Life by Jonathan Eig
“The Theology of Martin Luther King, Jr.” by James Cone
Voice of Deliverance: The Language of Martin Luther King, Jr. and Its Sources by Keith Miller
To See the Promised Land: The Faith Pilgrimage of Martin Luther King, Jr. by Frederick Downing
Search for the Beloved Community: The Thinking of Martin Luther King, Jr. by Kenneth Smith and Ira Zepp, Jr.
The Seminarian: Martin Luther King Jr. Comes of Age by Patrick Parr
Origins of the Dream: Hughes's Poetry and King's Rhetoric by W. Jason Miller
A Fire You Can't Put Out: The Civil Rights Life of Birmingham's Reverend Fred Shuttlesworth by Andrew Manis
A Philosophy of Religion by Edgar Sheffield Brightman
Moral Man and Immoral Society by Reinhold Niebuhr
Religion and the Rise of Capitalism by R. H. Tawney
Christianity and the Social Crisis by Walter Rauschenbusch
God’s Long Summer: Stories of Faith and Civil Rights by Charles Marsh
The Social Gospel in American Religion by Christopher Evans
Coming to Terms with John F. Kennedy by Stephen Knott
Doctrine and Race by Mary Beth Swetnam Mathews
The Last Segregated Hour: The Memphis Kneel-Ins and the Campaign for Southern Church Desegregation by Stephen R. Haynes
A Stone of Hope by David Chappell
Thanks to Dr. Garrow for generously hosting in addition to being interviewed.
Thanks to Jason Wallace (of Ancient Paths TV), Bradley Campbell (of God Loves Mormons) and Casey Cheney (of FBC Provo) for making this interview happen.
In this episode, we begin our interview with Dr. David J. Garrow, distinguished historian and Pulitzer Prize winning author of Bearing the Cross: Martin Luther King, Jr., and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. In this interview, we ask Dr. Garrow about what led him to write the biography of MLK – and what went into his incredible research, including his expertise in FBI documents. We discuss the ecclesiastical context of King and the Civil Rights movement and why the FBI began tracking MLK – as well as some of the more troubling parts of the life of King. We discuss parts of his 2019 article and what people are missing who dismiss some of this evidence. Join us as Dr. Garrow helps us think through how to understand King, in his context.
Dr. David Garrow’s website
Some books by Dr. Garrow:
Some articles by Dr. Garrow:
Other resources:
King: A Life by Jonathan Eig
“The Theology of Martin Luther King, Jr.” by James Cone
Voice of Deliverance: The Language of Martin Luther King, Jr. and Its Sources by Keith Miller
To See the Promised Land: The Faith Pilgrimage of Martin Luther King, Jr. by Frederick Downing
Search for the Beloved Community: The Thinking of Martin Luther King, Jr. by Kenneth Smith and Ira Zepp, Jr.
The Seminarian: Martin Luther King Jr. Comes of Age by Patrick Parr
Origins of the Dream: Hughes's Poetry and King's Rhetoric by W. Jason Miller
A Fire You Can't Put Out: The Civil Rights Life of Birmingham's Reverend Fred Shuttlesworth by Andrew Manis
A Philosophy of Religion by Edgar Sheffield Brightman
Moral Man and Immoral Society by Reinhold Niebuhr
Religion and the Rise of Capitalism by R. H. Tawney
Christianity and the Social Crisis by Walter Rauschenbusch
God’s Long Summer: Stories of Faith and Civil Rights by Charles Marsh
The Social Gospel in American Religion by Christopher Evans
Coming to Terms with John F. Kennedy by Stephen Knott
Doctrine and Race by Mary Beth Swetnam Mathews
The Last Segregated Hour: The Memphis Kneel-Ins and the Campaign for Southern Church Desegregation by Stephen R. Haynes
A Stone of Hope by David Chappell
Thanks to Dr. Garrow for generously hosting in addition to being interviewed.
Thanks to Jason Wallace (of Ancient Paths TV), Bradley Campbell (of God Loves Mormons) and Casey Cheney (of FBC Provo) for making this interview happen.
In this episode, we welcome back Bradley Campbell of God Loves Mormons about his video regarding the origin, history and then elimination of the office of Presiding Patriarch of the LDS Church. Bradley takes us through some of the essential issues, historically – and lands on some of the ironies, theologically, when it comes to LDS interpretation and apologetic use of Ephesians 4.11 in promoting and defending the Mormon Restoration. First filled by Joseph Smith’s father: Joseph Smith, Sr. - this office was seen as not only (at least) presiding over the patriarchal priesthood, but as a position from which the Smith bloodline would guard the Church. If this office of Presiding Patriarch was an essential office of the LDS restoration, why did President Kimball eliminate it in 1979?
Video: “What Mormons don’t know about the ‘Highest Office’ in the LDS Church” (also here)
God Loves Mormons
Mormonism Research Ministry
Christian Research Center
D&C 20; 107; 124
Lost Legacy: The Mormon Office of Presiding Patriarch by Irene M. Bates and E. Gary Smith
Priesthood and Church Government by Elder John A. Widtsoe
The Words of Joseph Smith, compiled and edited by Andrew Ehat and Lyndon Cook
History of the Church 2.379-80, 3.381 (below), 5.510, 7.234
In this episode, we interview Dr. Michael Haykin about his article “Fundamentum et Columnam Fidei Nostrae: Irenaeus on the Perfect and Saving Nature of the Scriptures”. Michael introduces us to Irenaeus of Lyons (c. 130-195), one of the first great Christian theologians. What was the Christian Faith Irenaeus inherited, articulates and defends - and what were the views and ideas he saw as a threat to it? In this interview, we learn about Marcion, Gnosticism, and how the debates this second century Christian pastor-theologian was involved in are relevant to the issues of today.
“Fundamentum et Columnam Fidei Nostrae: Irenaeus on the Perfect and Saving Nature of the Scriptures” by Dr. Michael Haykin; found in Do Historical Matters Matter to Faith? Edited by James K. Hoffmeier and Dennis R. Magary (also see here)
Against Heresies by Irenaeus of Lyons
Other books by Dr. Haykin:
Rediscovering the Church Fathers: Who They Were and How They Shaped the Church
Amidst Us Our Beloved Stands: Recovering Sacrament in the Baptist Tradition
Other Resources:
Christianity at the Crossroads by Michael Kruger (also here); The Heresy of Orthodoxy by Michael J. Kruger and Andreas J. Kostenberger
The Early Christian Fathers, edited and translated by Henry Bettenson
“’The Truth Above All Demonstration’: Scripture in the Patristic Period to Augustine” by Charles E. Hill; found in The Enduring Authority of the Christian Scriptures, edited by D.A. Carson
Thy Word Is Truth by Edward J. Young
The Virgin Birth of Christ; Christianity and Liberalism by J. Gresham Machen
The Gnostic New Age by April DeConick
“Did Irenaeus subordinate Scripture to unwritten tradition? The inference has been commonly drawn, but it issues from a somewhat misleading antithesis. Its plausibility depends on such considerations as (a) that, in controversy with the Gnostics, traditions rather than Scripture seemed to be his final court of appeal, and (b) that he apparently relied upon tradition to establish the true exegesis of Scripture. But a careful analysis of his [Against Heresies] reveals that, while the Gnostics’ appeal to their supposed secret tradition forced him to stress the superiority of the Church’s public tradition, his real defence of orthodoxy was founded on Scripture. Indeed, tradition itself, on his view, was confirmed by Scripture, which was ‘the foundation and pillar of our faith”. Secondly, Irenaeus admittedly suggested that a firm grasp of ‘the canon of the truth’ received at baptism would prevent a man from distorting the sense of Scripture. But this ‘canon’, so far from being something distinct from Scripture, was simply a condensation of the message contained in it. Being by its very nature normative in form, it provided a man with a handy clue to Scripture, whose very ramifications played into the hands of heretics. The whole point of his teaching was, in fact, that Scripture and the Church’s unwritten tradition are identical in content, both being vehicles of the revelation. If the tradition conveyed in the ‘canon’ is a more trustworthy guide, this is not because it comprises truths other than those revealed in Scripture, but because the true tenor of the apostolic message is there unambiguously set out.” (Early Christian Doctrines by J.N.D. Kelly, pp. 38-39)
“Was the Burning in Your Bosom from God?”; “The Magical Mormon Scriptures”; Joseph Smith: Behind the Mask; Temples Made With Hands?; Bart Ehrman vs. The Bible (Pastor Jason Wallace)
Mormon/LDS Sources:
“Strange Creeds of Christendom” by LeGrand Richards
“The Only True God and Jesus Christ Whom He Hath Sent” by Elder Jeffrey R. Holland
“Are ‘Mormons’ Christian?” ; “Becoming Like God” (Gospel Topics Essays)
“Lightning Out of Heaven”: Joseph Smith and the Forging of Community by Terryl Givens
“Joseph Smith Translation: The Doctrinal Restoration” by Elder Bruce R. McConkie
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